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draft January 4 PIC minutes


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  • From: "Ben Chinowsky" <>
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  • Subject: draft January 4 PIC minutes
  • Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:23:43 -0800

*Action Items as of January 10*

(high priority)
[ACTION] (1/4) Rodger will ask Tyler Johnson and Jonathan Tyman for more
specifics on where they see PIC going and what staff support is likely to be
available.
[ACTION] (1/4) Prashant will send out some links on how XMPP relates to
federations.
[ACTION] (1/4) Ben will find out what survey support services Internet2
provides.
[ACTION] (1/4) Ben will find out what happened to the PIC chatroom.
[ACTION] (12/14) Rodger and Prashant will further discuss how CampusEAI could
participate in PIC.
[ACTION] (9/7) Mark will post his presence-agent code on the web.
[ACTION] (8/24 - in progress) Mark will see if he can find interest in the
presence-agent project on the Psi developers' list.
[ACTION] (5/18) Mark will evaluate prospects for modifying the calendar-
integration code written by Ben T.'s 2005 SoC student, to drive XMPP presence.

(medium priority)
[ACTION] (8/31) Dennis will contact Skyhook for more information.
[ACTION] (8/3) Rodger will put a discussion of current vendor offerings in the
location-services space on the agenda for a future call.
[ACTION] (in progress) Rodger and Joe will write up some use cases
for enterprise federations.

*Attendees*

Rodger Will (chair) - Ford
Joe Rork - Ford
Prashant Chopra - CampusEAI
Dennis Baron - MIT
Candace Holman - Harvard
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

Rodger noted that the RTC-AG report (http://www.internet2.edu/rtc/) identifies
PIC as a place for less production-oriented, more experimental work on
real-time
communications. The group discussed the possibility of rechartering along
these
lines; no decision was reached. [ACTION] Rodger will ask Tyler Johnson and
Jonathan Tyman for more specifics on where they see PIC going and what staff
support is likely to be available.

The group also discussed next steps for its XMPP work. [ACTION] Prashant will
send out some links on how XMPP relates to federations. Dennis noted that
there
has been talk of building on the success of SIP.edu by creating an XMPP.edu
along similar lines. Rodger suggested starting with a questionnaire aimed at
the campuses, e.g., have you deployed XMPP? are you interested in being able
to access other campuses without having to give accounts to all their users?
[ACTION] Ben will find out what survey support services Internet2 provides.
Also, [ACTION] Ben will find out what happened to the PIC chatroom. Dennis
suggested that it would be interesting to see who has XMPP DNS records in
place. Rodger noted that Ford has not forbidden the use of consumer IM
services, largely because it currently has nothing better to offer users.

Finally there was a short discussion of security and VoIP. It was noted that
implementing VoIP tends to raise expectations for security -- encryption is
widely expected for VoIP, where it never was for POTS.



  • draft January 4 PIC minutes, Ben Chinowsky, 01/10/2007

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