Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of November 1*

[ACTION] (11/1) Rodger will let the list know if there will still be a PIC
conference call on November 2, in parallel with the virtual meeting in
Second Life.
[ACTION] (10/26) Deke will organize a PIC meeting in Second Life from 4-5pm 
EST
on Nov. 2 (the regular PIC conference call slot); all who wish to participate
will send Deke 
()
 the name of their Second Life avatar by
2pm EST on Nov. 2.
[ACTION] (10/12 - in progress) Candace will try to fix pals-dev.
[ACTION] (9/7) Mark will post his presence-agent code on the web.
[ACTION] (8/31) Rodger will schedule an evening PIC WG meeting at the
Internet2 Member Meeting.
[ACTION] (8/31) Dennis will contact Skyhook for more information.
[ACTION] (8/24 - in progress) Ben T. will contact the Galago developers to 
find
out how the presence-agent project could make use of Galago.
[ACTION] (8/24 - in progress) Mark will see if he can find interest in the
presence-agent project on the Psi developers' list.
[ACTION] (5/18) Ben T. will post the calendar-integration code (written by his
2005 SoC student) on the Penn XMPP server; Mark will evaluate prospects for
modifying it to drive XMPP presence.

(medium priority)
[ACTION] (8/3) Rodger will put a discussion of current vendor offerings in the
location-services space on the agenda for a future call.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger and Joe will write up some use cases
for enterprise federations.

*Attendees*

Rodger Will (chair) - Ford
Joe Rork - Ford
Deke Kassabian - Penn
Candace Holman - Harvard
Ben Teitelbaum - Internet2
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

Ben T. announced that he is leaving Internet2; his last day will be November 
3.
Internet2 has not yet identified a new staff liaison for the PIC working 
group,
but expects to do so soon.

The group discussed the potential of Second Life 
(http://secondlife.com/whatis/)
as a collaboration tool. Deke noted that in an avatar-based virtual world like
this one, you can (for example) actually hand someone a document, instead of
just promising to email them after the meeting is over. On the other hand,
Ben T. noted that one advantage of traditional audio-only conference calls is
that they allow people to multitask. Deke agreed that a virtual world makes it
more obvious when someone is dividing their attention between the meeting and
something else, like email. It was noted that there is no audio in Second 
Life,
just text chat.

There was general agreement that Second Life as a collaboration tool is an 
idea
worth experimenting with. [ACTION] Deke will organize a PIC meeting in Second
Life from 4-5pm EST on Nov. 2 (the regular PIC conference call slot); all who
wish to participate will send Deke 
()
 the name of their Second
Life avatar by 2pm EST on Nov. 2. [ACTION] Rodger will let the list know if
there will still be a PIC conference call on November 2, in parallel with the
virtual meeting in Second Life.

[Note that the system requirements for Second Life are fairly stringent:
http://secondlife.com/corporate/sysreqs.php . In particular, Linux and many
video cards are not supported.]