Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of August 3*

(high priority)
[ACTION] (7/13) Mark will look for a reference to a dating service he's
heard about, that pops up a picture whenever someone who fits your criteria
in is the vicinity.
[ACTION] (6/29 - in progress) Mark will try using Applescript to specify
an arbitrary presence doc to publish, with a view towards using this for a
geolocation demo.
[ACTION] (6/15) Rodger will put discussion of if and how to fix PALS and
PALS-DEV on the agenda for a future call.
[ACTION] (6/15) Rodger and Peter will look into the status of Jingle for Gaim.
[ACTION] (5/18) Ben T. will post the calendar-integration code (written by his
2005 SoC student) on the Penn XMPP server; Mark will evaluate prospects for
modifying it to drive XMPP presence.
[ACTION] (5/4) Rodger will send the PIC WG a matrix of XMPP clients to try.
[ACTION] (5/4) Rodger will send notes to assorted mailing lists, asking for
input on PIC's XMPP plan.

(medium priority)
[ACTION] (5/11 - on hold for the summer) Ben T. will look for students active
in Place Lab to work with PIC.
[ACTION] (4/13) Rodger, Joe, Ben T., Steve, and Candace will continue testing
Gaim SIMPLE against pals.
[ACTION] (3/2) Joe will ask Jon Peterson to join a PIC call to talk about work
in IETF SIMPLE.
[ACTION] (1/12 - ongoing) Ben T., Candace, and Steve will continue with 
pals-dev
testing.
[ACTION] (1/5 - in progress) Rodger will look for carrier reps to present
perspectives on IMS.
[ACTION] (12/8 - in progress) Dennis will schedule Megan Pengelly to summarize
Columbia's PIC-SER experience on a future call.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger will try to reach his contact at
Barracuda Networks.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger will contact Erik Lagerway.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger and Joe will write up some use cases
for federations.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Rodger will try to organize a call with CounterPath.

(low priority)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will enable eyeBeam to use presence info to decide
whether messages should go straight to voicemail.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will update the interface requirements document.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) People will research skiff-like offerings from various
companies:
- Dennis - Newbury
- Rodger - Airespace (now part of Cisco)
- Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnussen)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Ben T. will write a short document describing the 
motivation
for the paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC development.

*Attendees*

Rodger Will (chair) - Ford
Joe Rork - Ford
Mark Sirota - Penn
Dennis Baron - MIT
Neal McBurnett - Internet2
Ben Teitelbaum - Internet2
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

Mark is working on a proof-of-concept "stand-alone presence manager for
Jabber" -- a Jabber client that just does presence. The presence manager is
written in python. Mark expects it to be easily portable across platforms,
though he hasn't tested this yet; he'd particularly like to get it working on
handheld devices.

The group discussed how Mark's work could be supplemented on the server side.
While no conclusion was reached, there was general agreement that a good
web authentication solution is crucial here. Neal noted that there is a lot
of activity in this area right now, and that Internet2 MACE chair Bob Morgan
particularly recommends Dick Hardt's presentation at
http://www.identity20.com/media/OSCON2005/ .

Mark cited iTunes ("what I'm listening to right now"), GPS, and calendaring as
reference use-cases for the presence manager. Other possibilities include room
location (as in the Member Meeting demo), I'm-on-the-phone notification,
power-status notification (plugged in or not), and docking status for laptops.
Mark is planning to create an API, and would like PIC to recruit others to 
write
modules for integration with technologies such as PlaceLab and Google Maps.
Dennis may have resources for this at MIT.

Dennis noted that the Loki location service (http://loki.com/) can only find
buildings that face the street, not, for example, buildings in the middle of a
campus; clearly their maps are created via driving around. Ben T. confirmed 
that
they are "professional war-drivers"; they're hiring drivers.

Ben T. and Rodger will be attending Fall VON (http://www.von.com/). Ben is on
panels on ISN and "QoS-bashing"; Rodger is on a panel on enterprise VoIP
deployment issues for telecom managers.