Presence and IntComm WG

["Will, Rodger (R.)" <>]

Title: Cancelled: Today's PIC Working Group Call

Due to some very pressing work projects, the scheduled for today is cancelled.  However, I would like to maintain our momentum.  Please review the action items below, and continue making progress on them. 

Rodger



ACTION] All will send the list their thoughts on use cases that could drive the
group's XMPP work.
[ACTION] (5/25) Deke will send Mark a list of PIC members who need jabberd
and/or shell accounts on the Penn XMPP server.
[ACTION] (5/25) Mark will look for XMPP software that supports roster push.
[ACTION] (5/25) All will send the list their thoughts on use cases that could
drive the group's XMPP work.
[ACTION] (5/18) Ben T. will post the calendar-integration code (written by his
2005 SoC student) on the Penn XMPP server; Mark will evaluate prospects for
modifying it to drive XMPP presence.
[ACTION] (5/11 - in progress) Ben T. will look for students active in Place Lab
to work with PIC.
[ACTION] (5/4) Rodger will send the PIC WG a matrix of XMPP clients to try.
[ACTION] (5/4 - in progress) Steve will draft a strawman proposal for PIC's XMPP
work; others are welcome to help.
[ACTION] (5/4) Rodger will send notes to assorted mailing lists, asking for
input on PIC's XMPP plan.

*Discussion*

The group discussed various aspects of its planned XMPP work.
- Steve asked if his XMPP strawman document should discuss SIMPLE. There was
general agreement that while SIMPLE and XMPP/SIMPLE gatewaying will not be a
major focus of this work, they should be included in the document.
- [ACTION] Deke will send Mark a list of PIC members who need jabberd and/or
shell accounts on the Penn XMPP server.
- There was interest in Rodger's suggestion that the group work on "interdomain
presence passing." Steve suggested that if we were to roll this out at an
Internet2 Member Meeting demo, then package it as a PIC-SER release, there
would likely be strong user interest in using it for IM.
- Rodger asked if XMPP can do "roster push" -- populating new users' buddy lists
from the server, so everyone doesn't have to manually subscribe to everyone else
before they can get started. Mark confirmed that it's in the spec, but he
doesn't know if there's actual code that supports it yet. [ACTION] Mark will
look for XMPP software that supports roster push.
- Rodger praised the calendar integration in the latest Microsoft Office
presence tools; he suggests taking a look at this to get ideas for a possible
open-standards-based implementation of calendar-driven presence.
- Mark noted that Jabber supports group chat with several levels of anonymity,
e.g., no one except the moderator can see who you are.
- The group considered mobile clients. There was general agreement that while we
should definitely stick with IP-only, this could well include working with new
types of devices, WiFi phones in particular.

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