Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of April 12*

(medium priority)
[ACTION] (4/6) All will review the revamped PIC WG web site
(http://pic.internet2.edu/) and send comments to Ben T. and Rodger.
[ACTION] (4/6) Rodger and Ben T. will test GAIM SIMPLE against pals.
[ACTION] (3/2) Joe will ask Jon Peterson to join a PIC call to talk about work
in IETF SIMPLE.
[ACTION] (1/12 - ongoing) Ben T., Candace, and Steve will continue with 
pals-dev
testing.
[ACTION] (1/5 - in progress) Rodger will look for carrier reps to present
perspectives on IMS.
[ACTION] (12/8 - in progress) Dennis will schedule Megan Pengelly to summarize
Columbia's PIC-SER experience on a future call.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Candace will add a wiki document on strict 
vs.
loose routing.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger will try to reach his contact at
Barracuda Networks.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger will contact Erik Lagerway.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger and Joe will write up some use cases
for federations.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Rodger will try to organize a call with CounterPath.

(low priority)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Candace and Jamey will initiate an email discussion of 
their
proposal to modify the SER PA module so it can do presence via SUBSCRIBE and
NOTIFY, to accommodate clients that don't do PUBLISH.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will enable eyeBeam to use presence info to decide
whether messages should go straight to voicemail.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will update the interface requirements document.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) People will research skiff-like offerings from various
companies:
- Dennis - Newbury
- Rodger - Airespace (now part of Cisco)
- Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnussen)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Ben T. will write a short document describing the 
motivation
for the paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC development.

*Attendees*

Rodger Will (chair) - Ford
Joe Rork - Ford
Deke Kassabian - Penn
Candace Holman - Harvard
Ben Teitelbaum (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

[ACTION] All will review the revamped PIC WG web site
(http://pic.internet2.edu/) and send comments to Ben T. and Rodger. Deke has
requested that the Arlington PIC WG meeting be rescheduled so that Michael
Gettes can join the next-steps discussion as spokesman for I2IM.

The group discussed where SIP-XMPP interop should take place -- server-side
gateways or multi-protocol clients? There has been no recent work on SER's
Jabber module, but there is Thomas's Summer of Code work on GAIM.

Rodger noted that there is currently very little commercial softphone
development, but there still seems to be significant interest in open-source
client development. GAIM now supports 11 protocols, including Sametime, and
has an active development community. [ACTION] Rodger and Ben T. will test
GAIM SIMPLE against pals.

Deke has brought up two instances of jabberd 2.x at Penn. One is for internal
use and testing; the other will be made available to the PIC WG. Penn plans to
use the SASL support to wire it for Kerberos authentication.