Presence and IntComm WG

[Deke Kassabian <>]

Different sense of the phrase "regular meeting place."
I meant like an any time chat room.

Joining the call any minute now...

^Deke

--On Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:40 PM -0500 Candace Holman 
<> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a comment on the minutes.
> "The group discussed XMPP next steps. Deke suggested we first make
> Ben T.'s Wildfire server a regular meeting place, then set up
> Jingle, then pursue cross-client interoperability; there was general
> agreement..."
>
> I hope that this doesn't mean we have to give up the eDial SIP
> access for our weekly calls!  I'd like to wait until there's proven
> interoperability before we make the Wildfire server a regular
> meeting place.  Anyone else?
>
> Candace
>
> Ben Chinowsky wrote:
> > *Action Items as of March 22*
> >
> > (high priority)
> > [ACTION] (3/16) All will review Candace's wiki proposal
> > (https://mail.internet2.edu/wws/arc/wg-pic/2006-03/msg00025.html)
> > and Reply All with any comments.
> > [ACTION] (3/16) Rodger will get Ben T. to update the PIC home page
> > and add a link to the wiki.
> > [ACTION] (2/23) All will send Rodger suggestions for Member Meeting
> > panelists.
> >
> > (medium priority)
> > [ACTION] (3/16) Deke will get a jabberd 2.x server set up at Penn.
> > [ACTION] (3/9) Deke will talk to Michael Gettes about involving
> > people from I2IM in PIC's XMPP work.
> > [ACTION] (3/2) Dennis will ask Jeff Pulver about the future of
> > pulver.communicator as a generic SIP client.
> > [ACTION] (3/2) Joe will ask Jon Peterson to join a PIC call to talk
> > about work in IETF SIMPLE.
> > [ACTION] (1/12 - ongoing) Ben T., Candace, and Steve will continue
> > with pals-dev testing.
> > [ACTION] (1/5 - in progress) Rodger will look for carrier reps to
> > present perspectives on IMS.
> > [ACTION] (12/8 - in progress) Dennis will schedule Megan Pengelly
> > to summarize Columbia's PIC-SER experience on a future call.
> > [ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Candace will add a wiki document
> > on strict vs. loose routing.
> > [ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger will try to reach his
> > contact at Barracuda Networks.
> > [ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger will contact Erik Lagerway.
> > [ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger and Joe will write up some
> > use cases for federations.
> > [ACTION] (pre-12/8) Rodger will try to organize a call with
> > CounterPath.
> >
> > (low priority)
> > [ACTION] (pre-12/8) Candace and Jamey will initiate an email
> > discussion of their proposal to modify the SER PA module so it can
> > do presence via SUBSCRIBE and NOTIFY, to accommodate clients that
> > don't do PUBLISH.
> > [ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will enable eyeBeam to use presence info
> > to decide whether messages should go straight to voicemail.
> > [ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will update the interface requirements
> > document. [ACTION] (pre-12/8) People will research skiff-like
> > offerings from various companies:
> > - Dennis - Newbury
> > - Rodger - Airespace (now part of Cisco)
> > - Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnussen)
> > [ACTION] (pre-12/8) Ben T. will write a short document describing
> > the motivation for the paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC
> > development.
> >
> > *Attendees*
> >
> > Rodger Will (chair) - Ford
> > Joe Rork - Ford
> > Deke Kassabian - Penn
> > Candace Holman - Harvard
> > Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2
> >
> > *Discussion*
> >
> > Rodger noted that planning for the Member Meeting session is going
> > well; so far there are confirmed speakers from Michigan, Penn, UNC,
> > and Texas A&M.
> >
> > The group discussed XMPP next steps. Deke suggested we first make
> > Ben T.'s Wildfire server a regular meeting place, then set up
> > Jingle, then pursue cross-client interoperability; there was
> > general agreement. A list of available clients is at
> > http://www.jabber.org/software/clients.shtml. There is also
> > interest in looking at cross-server interop; [ACTION] Deke will get
> > a jabberd 2.x server set up at Penn.
> >
> > A new version of the XMPP/SIMPLE interoperability I-D by Peter St.
> > Andre et al. is at
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-saintandre-xmpp-simple-07
> > .txt.
> >
> > The PIC WG now has a wiki; the group discussed how to make use of
> > it. [ACTION] All will review Candace's wiki proposal
> > (https://mail.internet2.edu/wws/arc/wg-pic/2006-03/msg00025.html)
> > and Reply All with any comments. [ACTION] Rodger will get Ben T. to
> > update the PIC home page and add a link to the wiki.



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Deke Kassabian,  Senior Technology Director
Information Systems and Computing, University of Pennsylvania