Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of March 2*

(high priority)
[ACTION] (2/23) All will send Rodger suggestions for Member Meeting panelists.
[ACTION] (2/23 - in progress) Ben C. will find out how to get a PIC wiki set 
up.

(medium priority)
[ACTION] (2/23) On a future call, Rodger will give a very short overview of
H.325.
[ACTION] (1/12 - ongoing) Ben T., Candace, and Steve will continue with 
pals-dev
testing.
[ACTION] (1/5 - in progress) Rodger will look for carrier reps to present
perspectives on IMS.
[ACTION] (12/8 - in progress) Dennis will schedule Megan Pengelly to summarize
Columbia's PIC-SER experience on a future call.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Steve will schedule Cullen Jennings as a 
guest
speaker on a joint PIC/SIP.edu conference call.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Candace will add a Wiki document on strict 
vs.
loose routing.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger will try to reach his contact at
Barracuda Networks.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger will contact Erik Lagerway.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger and Joe will write up some use cases
for federations.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Rodger will try to organize a call with CounterPath.

(low priority)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Candace and Jamey will initiate an email discussion of 
their
proposal to modify the SER PA module so it can do presence via SUBSCRIBE and
NOTIFY, to accommodate clients that don't do PUBLISH.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will enable eyeBeam to use presence info to decide
whether messages should go straight to voicemail.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will update the interface requirements document.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) People will research skiff-like offerings from various
companies:
- Dennis - Newbury
- Rodger - Airespace (now part of Cisco)
- Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnussen)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Ben T. will write a short document describing the 
motivation
for the paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC development.

*Attendees*

Rodger Will (chair) - Ford
Dennis Baron - MIT
Steve Blair - Penn
Candace Holman - Harvard
Ben Teitelbaum - Internet2
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

The PIC Member Meeting session has been approved, though a time for the 
session
is not yet scheduled. An abstract is at
https://mail.internet2.edu/wws/arc/wg-pic/2006-02/msg00038.html. Rodger will
chair, and is recruiting panelists; so far Deke (or someone else from Penn) is
the only one confirmed. [ACTION] All will send Rodger suggestions for Member
Meeting panelists.

The group continued its XMPP discussion. Steve noted that Penn is setting up a
Jabber server. Dennis noted that every MIT user has access to Jabber, but 
uptake
is low -- MIT's in-house IM system is still heavily used, and there are AIM
users as well. Rodger suggested that PIC talk to some XMPP experts before 
going
forward with work on Jabber deployment; Michael Gettes, Jon Peterson, and 
Peter
St. Andre are prospects.

There was a short discussion of IM/webmail integration; gmail and hotmail both
offer this. Dennis noted that some people find it  annoying to be listed as
present online just because they're reading email.

The group agreed that Candace's feature request list
(https://mail.internet2.edu/wws/arc/wg-pic/2006-02/msg00035.html) should be
posted with a note identifying it as a work in progress, and periodically
revisited. A wiki would be ideal for this; [ACTION] Ben C. will find out how 
to
get a PIC wiki set up. Rodger suggested the group also devote some time to
reviewing the list on a future call.

Candace closed her H.350/sip-communicator action item; see
https://mail.internet2.edu/wws/arc/wg-pic/2006-02/msg00039.html. Rodger noted
that the emerging H.325 standard claims to fix problems with H.323 and SIP.
[ACTION] On a future call, Rodger will give a very short overview of H.325.