Presence and IntComm WG

[Ben Teitelbaum <>]

<>
 writes:

>  
> I would be happy to help people with the Nokia E-series phones if they
> are able to buy them.  These will have SIP software that interoperates
> with Avaya, Cisco, Pingtel, etc SIP registrars.  We're going to deploy
> some in my lab, as soon as we can get them.
>

Jamey,

Interesting.  Is the notion to support the kind of automatic
WiFi-cellular roaming that VeriSign can do?  VeriSign's stuff seemed
very cool, but there was a real lack of good dual-mode handsets 6-12
months ago when I was looking at it.  With Nokia building dual-mode
handsets, perhaps that's changed!

On a related note, what's the deal with UMA [1]?  It seems to simply
tunnel GSM/GPRS over IP over WiFi, essentially treating a WiFi AP like
a free tower (from the carrier's perspective).  Could an app running
on a UMA handset like Nokia's 6136, turn UMA off and implement P2P SIP
or is access to the 802.11 radio on these handsets locked down?

Best Regards,

-- ben

1. http://www.umatechnology.org/


> Jamey
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ext Candace Holman 
>> [mailto:]
>>  
>> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:52 PM
>> To: 
>> 
>> Subject: [wg-pic] EQO and Skype partnership lets you run 
>> Skype on cell phone
>> 
>> Though dual-mode cell and voip device convergence is nothing 
>> new, it is a little hard to obtain, with many companies 
>> promising products that are yet to be released or just for 
>> home consumer use, such as Motorola's Residential Seamless 
>> Mobility Gateway for example [1].  EQO has released a cell 
>> phone plugin "which runs on your computer, connecting your 
>> Skype user account to your mobile phone" [2]  So a call from 
>> your cell to a Skype buddy on your buddy list is delivered 
>> over regular wireless phone services using SkypeOut (PSTN 
>> connected Skype calls).  A bit too Rube Goldberg-esque [4] 
>> for my tastes, but they got the job done.
>> 
>> Interesting points from the CNET article [3]:
>> * Instead of phone numbers, you use Skype buddy lists, 
>> downloaded to your cell phone, to contact others
>> * Your buddy list indicates user "presence" as a device 
>> capability, ie whether you can call via Skype or cell
>> * You can place privacy restrictions on your buddy list so 
>> you only get calls that you really want
>> * It's not supported on phones that don't run Java J2ME (like 
>> Verizon wireless service, which uses BREW)
>> * Eqo says that Skype is just the beginning, and they plan to 
>> partner with LinkedIn, MySpace, and others
>> 
>> So, are you ready to bite?
>> 
>> Candace Holman
>> 
>> 
>> [1] Roam where you want to!  New Motorola Technologies Break 
>> the Barrier Between Home and Wireless Phone Services:
>> http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail/0,,6258_6213_2
>> 3,00.html
>> 
>> [2] Understanding EQO:
>> http://www.eqo.com/download_how.html
>> 
>> [3] Service lets Skype users chat on cell phones: 
>> http://news.com.com/Service+lets+Skype+users+chat+on+cell+phon
>> es/2100-7352_3-6036663.html?tag=nefd.top 
>> 
>> 
>> [4] Rube Goldberg
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg
>> 
>> 
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>

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