Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of December 14*
(now listed with date assigned, as agreed on the 12/8 call)

(high priority)
[ACTION] (12/8) On the next well-attended call, the group will consider 
whether
to adopt a call schedule covering PIC-SER and SIP/XMPP on alternating weeks.
[ACTION] (12/8) Dennis will ask Megan Pengelly to summarize Columbia's PIC-SER
experience.
[ACTION] (12/8) All will give some thought to ideas for PIC activities at the
Spring MM.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Ben T. will ask Steve Kirk to suggest someone from Nortel 
to
present on a PIC call.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Rodger will try to reach his contact at Barracuda 
Networks.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Rodger will contact Erik Lagerway.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Rodger will ask Jeremy to present on privacy on a future
call.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Rodger and Joe will write up some use cases for 
federations.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Rodger will try to organize a call with CounterPath 
sometime
in the next few weeks.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Steve will ask Jamey for an update on
open-source HP location-tracking technologies -- especially a) the status of 
the
software, and b) whether any writeups of this work are available.

(medium priority)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Steve will schedule Cullen Jennings as a 
guest
speaker on a joint PIC/SIP.edu conference call.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Candace will add a Wiki document on strict 
vs.
loose routing.

(low priority)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Candace and Jamey will initiate an email discussion of 
their
proposal to modify the SER PA module so it can do presence via SUBSCRIBE and
NOTIFY, to accommodate clients that don't do PUBLISH.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will enable eyeBeam to use presence info to decide
whether messages should go straight to voicemail.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Jamey will update the interface requirements document.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) People will research skiff-like offerings from various
companies:
- Dennis - Newbury
- Rodger - Airespace (now part of Cisco)
- Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnussen)
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Candace will look into Tyler Johnson's H.350-enabled 
version
of the NIST client.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8) Ben T. will write a short document describing the 
motivation
for the paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC development.

*Attendees*

Joe Rork (acting chair) - Ford
Dennis Baron - MIT
Candace Holman - Harvard
Steve Blair - Penn
Ben Teitelbaum - Internet2
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

The group briefly reviewed the previous week's discussion of the need to 
balance
continued work on PIC-SER with bigger-picture SIP/XMPP issues. [ACTION] On the
next well-attended call, the group will consider whether to adopt a call
schedule covering PIC-SER and SIP/XMPP on alternating weeks.

Recent testing has identified the source of the PIC-SER presence-updates
problem; Vaclav expects to have this fixed fairly soon. Candace used pua.pl
(http://pua-pl.berlios.de/) in this testing; she highly recommends this tool,
especially when used with the web interface
(http://www.in-ulm-herum.de/webui/ppl.pl).

The group considered why it has been so hard to recruit PIC-SER participants 
to
summarize their experiences on the PIC calls. There has been a language 
barrier
for some. Ben T. suggested that we need to make clear that "it didn't work" is
still an interesting answer. As preparation for the next PIC-SER release,
Candace would like to do a summary of the PIC WG's own deployment, but she's
not sure when she'll have time; other volunteers would be welcome.
[ACTION] Dennis will ask Megan Pengelly to summarize Columbia's PIC-SER
experience.

The Spring Internet2 Member Meeting is April 24-26. Session proposals are due
January 20, and side meeting proposals are due February 13; see
http://events.internet2.edu/2006/spring-mm/calls.cfm. [ACTION] All will give
some thought to ideas for PIC activities at the Spring MM.