Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

Resending due to the gap since the last call.

Talk to you at 4:00 Eastern,
Ben C.


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From: "Ben Chinowsky" 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:10 PM
Subject: [wg-pic] draft November 10 PIC minutes


> *Action Items as of November 16*
>
> (high priority)
> [ACTION] Candace will learn how to use pua.pl (http://pua-pl.berlios.de/) 
> for
> testing the SER PA module.
> [ACTION] Rodger will ask Jeremy to present on privacy on the December 1 
> call.
> [ACTION] Rodger and Joe will write up some use cases for federations.
> [ACTION] Rodger will try to organize a call with CounterPath sometime in the
> next few weeks.
> [ACTION] For the next few conference calls, Rodger will recruit PIC-SER
> participants to summarize their experiences.
> [ACTION] The PIC WG will evaluate what functions (e.g. group chat) should be
> added to the next version of the PIC-SER package.
> [ACTION] Steve will ask Jamey for an update on open-source HP location-
> tracking technologies -- especially a) the status of the software, and
> b) whether any writeups of this work are available.
>
> (medium priority)
> [ACTION] (in progress) Steve will schedule Cullen Jennings as a guest
> speaker on a joint PIC/SIP.edu conference call.
> [ACTION] (in progress) Candace will add a Wiki document on strict vs. loose
> routing.
>
> (low priority)
> [ACTION] Candace and Jamey will initiate an email discussion of their 
> proposal
> to modify the SER PA module so it can do presence via SUBSCRIBE and NOTIFY, 
> to
> accommodate clients that don't do PUBLISH.
> [ACTION] Jamey will enable eyeBeam to use presence info to decide
> whether messages should go straight to voicemail.
> [ACTION] Jamey will update the interface requirements document.
> [ACTION] People will research skiff-like offerings from various companies:
> - Dennis - Newbury
> - Rodger - Airespace (now part of Cisco)
> - Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnussen)
> [ACTION] Candace will look into Tyler Johnson's H.350-enabled version of the
> NIST client.
> [ACTION] Ben T. will write a short document describing the motivation for 
> the
> paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC development.
>
> *Attendees*
>
> Rodger Will (chair) - Ford
> Candace Holman - Harvard
> Deke Kassabian - Penn
> Ben Teitelbaum - Internet2
> Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2
>
> *Discussion*
>
> Candace noted that there is no way to patch SER with Vaclav's update of the 
> PA
> module for SER; you have to download the whole thing and recompile. As this 
> is
> dangerous in a production environment, testers who have no SER install yet
would
> be especially welcome. The group agreed to use the hour reserved for next
week's
> call, plus the previous hour (Nov. 17, 3-5pm Eastern), for SER PA module
> testing. [ACTION] Candace will learn how to use pua.pl
> (http://pua-pl.berlios.de/) for testing the SER PA module.
>
> As Nov. 17 is testing and Nov. 24 is Thanksgiving, the next general 
> discussion
> session will be December 1. The group agreed to make privacy the topic.
Candace
> will report back from a Katherine Albrecht seminar she's planning to attend 
> on
> November 16  (see http://www.spychips.com/ for more on Albrecht). [ACTION]
> Rodger will ask Jeremy to present on privacy on the December 1 call. Rodger
> suggested the group then return to its discussion of federations in the 
> light
of
> the privacy discussion, looking at the tradeoffs between privacy and 
> exposing
> presence information.
>
> Finally, the group discussed how to record conclusions from its discussions 
> in
> such a way as to make it likely they will get translated into requests for
> specific features in specific presence servers and presence agents. It was
> agreed to start compiling a list of "topics to be developed" into such 
> feature
> requests. Ben T. suggested also creating a list of PIC WG milestones for the
> coming year, including features we would like added and target dates for
getting
> them added.
>