Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of November 16*

(high priority)
[ACTION] Candace will learn how to use pua.pl (http://pua-pl.berlios.de/) for
testing the SER PA module.
[ACTION] Rodger will ask Jeremy to present on privacy on the December 1 call.
[ACTION] Rodger and Joe will write up some use cases for federations.
[ACTION] Rodger will try to organize a call with CounterPath sometime in the
next few weeks.
[ACTION] For the next few conference calls, Rodger will recruit PIC-SER
participants to summarize their experiences.
[ACTION] The PIC WG will evaluate what functions (e.g. group chat) should be
added to the next version of the PIC-SER package.
[ACTION] Steve will ask Jamey for an update on open-source HP location-
tracking technologies -- especially a) the status of the software, and
b) whether any writeups of this work are available.

(medium priority)
[ACTION] (in progress) Steve will schedule Cullen Jennings as a guest
speaker on a joint PIC/SIP.edu conference call.
[ACTION] (in progress) Candace will add a Wiki document on strict vs. loose
routing.

(low priority)
[ACTION] Candace and Jamey will initiate an email discussion of their proposal
to modify the SER PA module so it can do presence via SUBSCRIBE and NOTIFY, to
accommodate clients that don't do PUBLISH.
[ACTION] Jamey will enable eyeBeam to use presence info to decide
whether messages should go straight to voicemail.
[ACTION] Jamey will update the interface requirements document.
[ACTION] People will research skiff-like offerings from various companies:
- Dennis - Newbury
- Rodger - Airespace (now part of Cisco)
- Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnussen)
[ACTION] Candace will look into Tyler Johnson's H.350-enabled version of the
NIST client.
[ACTION] Ben T. will write a short document describing the motivation for the
paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC development.

*Attendees*

Rodger Will (chair) - Ford
Candace Holman - Harvard
Deke Kassabian - Penn
Ben Teitelbaum - Internet2
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

Candace noted that there is no way to patch SER with Vaclav's update of the PA
module for SER; you have to download the whole thing and recompile. As this is
dangerous in a production environment, testers who have no SER install yet 
would
be especially welcome. The group agreed to use the hour reserved for next 
week's
call, plus the previous hour (Nov. 17, 3-5pm Eastern), for SER PA module
testing. [ACTION] Candace will learn how to use pua.pl
(http://pua-pl.berlios.de/) for testing the SER PA module.

As Nov. 17 is testing and Nov. 24 is Thanksgiving, the next general discussion
session will be December 1. The group agreed to make privacy the topic. 
Candace
will report back from a Katherine Albrecht seminar she's planning to attend on
November 16  (see http://www.spychips.com/ for more on Albrecht). [ACTION]
Rodger will ask Jeremy to present on privacy on the December 1 call. Rodger
suggested the group then return to its discussion of federations in the light 
of
the privacy discussion, looking at the tradeoffs between privacy and exposing
presence information.

Finally, the group discussed how to record conclusions from its discussions in
such a way as to make it likely they will get translated into requests for
specific features in specific presence servers and presence agents. It was
agreed to start compiling a list of "topics to be developed" into such feature
requests. Ben T. suggested also creating a list of PIC WG milestones for the
coming year, including features we would like added and target dates for 
getting
them added.