Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of September 14*

(high priority)
[ACTION] Rodger will send out a draft agenda for the PIC WG meeting in
Philadelphia.
[ACTION] Ben T. will ensure that pals-dev.internet2.edu is available for users
to register and experiment with during the WG meeting.

(medium priority)
[ACTION] Rodger and Steve will try to schedule Colin Jennings as a guest 
speaker
on one of the PIC conference calls.
[ACTION] After the Sept. 19-22 Internet2 Member Meeting, Ben T. will put
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 on PALS, backing up the SQL database so we can
re-create accounts later; then Jamey will update SER on PALS with the
latest PIC-SER package.
[ACTION] Candace will add a Wiki document on strict vs. loose routing.

(low priority)
[ACTION] After the Member Meeting, the group will revisit its call schedule.
[ACTION] Candace and Jamey will initiate an email discussion of their proposal
to modify the SER PA module so it can do presence via SUBSCRIBE and NOTIFY, to
accommodate clients that don't do PUBLISH.
[ACTION] Jamey will enable eyeBeam to use presence info to decide
whether messages should go straight to voicemail.
[ACTION] Jamey will update the interface requirements document.
[ACTION] Jamey will continue working on the future of the skiffs, and solicit
opinions from PIC members as needed.
[ACTION] People will research skiff-like offerings from various companies:
- Dennis - Newbury
- Rodger - Airespace (now part of Cisco)
- Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnussen)
[ACTION] Candace will look into Tyler Johnson's H.350-enabled version of the
NIST client.
[ACTION] Ben T. will write a short document describing the motivation for the
paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC development.

*Attendees*

Rodger Will (chair) - Ford
Steve Blair - Penn
Steve Kirk - Nortel
Mike Van Norman - UCLA
John Steir - Stony Brook
Candace Holman - Harvard
Ben Teitelbaum - Internet2
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

The group discussed plans for the Internet2 Member Meeting.
- The Tuesday evening PIC working group meeting
(events.internet2.edu/2005/fall-mm/sessionDetails.cfm?session=2314&event=239)
will focus on reports from the PIC-SER groups (see the presentation
guidelines in Rodger's Sept. 6 email) and a big-picture discussion of future
directions for the WG. [ACTION] Rodger will send out a draft agenda for the
PIC WG meeting in Philadelphia. John suggested that the WG meeting include a
demo component; [ACTION] Ben T. will ensure that pals-dev.internet2.edu is
available for users to register and experiment with during the WG meeting.
- On Wednesday morning, the Real-Time Communications Advisory Group (RTC-AG)
will hold a "Town Hall"
(events.internet2.edu/2005/fall-mm/sessionDetails.cfm?session=2291&event=239).
PIC members are encouraged to attend.

The September 15 conference call will include further discussion of plans for
the PIC WG and RTC-AG meetings in Philadelphia.

Candace observed that PIC conference calls have been getting shorter lately; 
the
group discussed what if anything needs to be done about this. On the one hand,
everyone has lots of other work to do; on the other hand, as Ben T. pointed 
out,
these meetings are supposed to have a SIG component as well as a business
component. Ben T. suggested scheduling specific topics for open discussion; 
this
could include having a guest speaker introduce the topic. There was general
agreement with this suggestion. [ACTION] Rodger and Steve will try to schedule
Colin Jennings as a guest speaker on one of the PIC conference calls. The 
group
will also give some thought to moving to a biweekly schedule. Rodger will 
make a
point of giving people lots of time to suggest new topics when the end of the
call agenda is reached. Rodger also encourages all PIC WG members to send him
their suggestions for future directions for the group.

Ben T. also suggested using the presence tools and the 24/7 phone bridge
to allow meetings to happen whenever a quorum can be gathered. There was
interest in trying this as an experiment, but no specific plans were made.