Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of March 2*

(new)
[ACTION] For the Spring MM demo, Rodger will look into a) Eyebeam for the Mac
and b) Session.
[ACTION] Candace will try to get a version of Pulver Communicator that 
registers
properly with PALS.
[ACTION] All will review Candace's Feb. 25 note to the list, subject "Presence
Package Requirements Update 022505 (2)", in preparation for further discussion
of the package, its cookbook, and associated services on the March 3 call.

(from previous calls)
[ACTION] Jeremy will continue recruiting speakers for the Spring MM session,
and draft an abstract of the session.
[ACTION] Candace will try to get Bruce involved in the Eyebeam testing.
[ACTION] Jamey will look into ways of addressing Dennis's concerns about solo
testing on the PALS server.
[ACTION] Jamey will test Eyebeam against the 090 prerelease version of SER,
which is what PALS is running now.
[ACTION] Candace will write a description of a simple way to append PUBLISH
messages from the client to the servers, in order to provide a basic way to
do location and presence tracking.
[ACTION] People will research skiff-like offerings from various companies:
- Dennis - Newbury
- Steve - Airwave
- Candace - Airespace (being bought by Cisco)
- Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnusson)
[ACTION] Jeremy will outline a high-level paper on the PIC WG's experiences 
and
lessons learned.
[ACTION] Ben T. will write a short document describing the motivation for the
paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC development.
[ACTION] Jamey will update the interface requirements document.
[ACTION] Jamey will continue working on the future of the skiffs, and solicit
opinions from PIC members as needed.

*Attendees*

Jeremy George (chair) - Yale
Jamey Hicks - HP
Candace Holman - Harvard
Rodger Wills - Ford
Art Gaylord - Woods Hole
Deke Kassabian - Penn
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

Jeremy noted that Ben T. has volunteered to direct the demo at the Spring MM;
the group agreed to accept his offer. Of the four parts of the session (big
picture, demo, explanation of demo, paths-in-the-snow) we now have a confirmed
presenter for the second, and are waiting to hear back from someone for the
first; the other two are still TBD. The group agreed that the demo should
include interoperability between two completely different commercial platforms
(Eyebeam and at least one other), but no skiff or other automatic location
technology. It was agreed that the demo will primarily use a wired network, 
with
a third client on a wireless device to be presented as a "high-wire act"
(failure expected, success therefore all the more impressive). We'll also plan
on having one of the endpoints off-site. Clients will need to support voice 
and
IM; video will be considered a nice extra. [ACTION] For the Spring MM demo,
Rodger will look into a) Eyebeam for the Mac and b) Session. [ACTION] Candace
will try to get a version of Pulver Communicator that registers properly with
PALS. The group agreed that the overall goal of the demo is to get at least 
four
different organizations to launch paths-in-the-snow trials.

The group discussed demo packaging. There was general agreement that we want 
to
make installing this as easy as possible; Jamey suggested "a pushbutton 
install,
plus provisioning the users" as a realistic goal. Jamey also offered to draft 
an
install "cookbook", including steps for provisioning both manually and via 
LDAP.
Jeremy and Art volunteered to test the cookbook install on their servers. 
Jamey
suggested that we use RPMs and only support the package on one specific 
version
of Red Hat -- no other versions, no other Linuxes, no Windows, no Mac. Candace
suggested that we offer paths-in-the-snow participants limited user-account
services on pals.edu; Jeremy noted that this is already being considered in
SIP.edu. [ACTION] All will review Candace's Feb. 25 note to the list, subject
"Presence Package Requirements Update 022505 (2)", in preparation for further
discussion of the package, its cookbook, and associated services on the March 
3
call.