Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of January 5*

[ACTION] Candace will write a description of a simple way to append PUBLISH
messages from the client to the servers, in order to provide a basic way to
do location and presence tracking.
[ACTION] People will research skiff-like offerings from various companies:
- Dennis - Newbury
- Steve - Airwave
- Candace - Airspace and Airmagnet
- Jeremy - Radiance and Alcatel
- Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnusson)
[ACTION] Jeremy will start recording the PIC calls on January 6, and come back
to the group for a consensus on posting the recordings.
[ACTION] Jeremy will outline a high-level paper on the PIC WG's experiences 
and
lessons learned.
[ACTION] Ben T. will write a short document describing the motivation for the
paths-in-the-snow approach to PIC development.
[ACTION] Jamey will update the interface requirements document.
[ACTION] Jeremy will notify Paul Love that PIC will not be doing a session at
the Salt Lake City Joint Techs.
[ACTION] Jamey will continue working on the future of the skiffs, and solicit
opinions from PIC members as needed.
[ACTION] The group will continue its discussion of what kind
of package to provide for paths-in-the-snow-engineering trials.

*Attendees*

Jeremy George (chair) - Yale
Steve Blair - Penn
Candace Holman - Harvard
Dennis Baron - MIT
Joe Rork - Ford
Ben Teitelbaum - Internet2
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

The group revisited its decision to do a double (2.5 hours) session at the
Spring Internet2 Member Meeting. Jeremy stressed that recruiting CIO's for
paths-in-the-snow trials is a priority, and suggested that an MM session might
not be the best way to get the most bang for our buck in this regard. Dennis
suggested trying to get one or two CIOs lined up to participate before the MM,
rather than trying to recruit them all there. Jeremy said we need about six
presenters to fill up the 2.5 hours; of those on the call, only Joe said he'd 
be
able to present. The group agreed to continue this discussion on the next 
call.

The group reviewed the matrix Candace put together to summarize the features
added to SER to support presence demos
(http://pic.internet2.edu/trials/PA_Module_Documentation.pdf). [ACTION] 
Candace
will write a description of a simple way to append PUBLISH messages from the
client to the servers, in order to provide a basic way to do location and
presence tracking. Candace suggested that RFC 3903
(http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3903.txt) is likely to spur the development of new
clients.

The group has identified several companies that make possible alternatives to
the skiffs. Steve has had conversations with Airwave, Airmagnet, and Eckehau.
All three have similar issues: they don't provide an interface to their
database, their sensors are all still in the $500 range, and all want to sell
you a hardware/software package, more or less as an appliance. Candace thinks
RFC 3903 might help encourage openness in this area as well. [ACTION] People
will research skiff-like offerings from various companies:
- Dennis - Newbury
- Steve - Airwave
- Candace - Airspace and Airmagnet
- Jeremy - Radiance and Alcatel
- Jeremy - Eckehau (via Walt Magnusson)