Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of August 18*

The date the item was assigned is in brackets.

[12-Aug-04] Ben T. will get Joe the dimensions of the media cards for the 
kiosk.
[12-Aug-04] Joe will follow up with Ben T. about laptops Ben T. may be able to
make available for the kiosk.
[12-Aug-04] On the next call that Jamey is on, the group will further discuss
what's needed to enable per-room display of resources.
[12-Aug-04] Ben T. will make further arrangements with VoEx.
[12-Aug-04] Ben T. will ask Jamey if he wants to keep being in charge of the
client requirements doc.
[12-Aug-04] Ben T. will give a progress report on using a web proxy to enable
click-to-dial for SIP.edu.

[5-Aug-04] Anyone who has computers they can donate for the kiosk will contact
Joe.
[5-Aug-04] Jamey and Xiaotao will get SER and sipc ready for a PIDF demo on
August 19.
[5-Aug-04] Joe will try to get the kiosk ready for a demo on the August 26 
call.

[29-Jul-04] Ben T. will get the H.350 engineers involved in planning for the
Fall MM demo.

[17-Jun-04] Joe will maintain a list of Austin demo goals and assignments on 
the
PIC web site.

*Attendees*

Jeremy George (chair) - Yale
Ben Teitelbaum - Internet2
Dennis Baron - MIT
Joe Rork - Ford
Xiaotao Wu - Columbia
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

The group reviewed action items:

[5-Aug-04] Anyone who has computers they can donate for the kiosk will contact
Joe.
- Two computers are needed, ideally twinheaded. [ACTION] Ben T. will get Joe 
the
dimensions of the media cards for the kiosk. [ACTION] Joe will follow up with
Ben T. about laptops Ben T. may be able to make available for the kiosk.

[5-Aug-04] Joe will talk to Ben T. about using donated funds from Microsoft 
for
headsets and handsets for the kiosk.
- Done. The funds will be available; what kind of headsets/handsets they'll be
used for is still TBD.

[5-Aug-04] Joe will follow up with Ben T. on integration with speaker notes 
and
surveys at the Fall MM.
- The idea here is for fat clients to be able to automatically present URLs 
for
resources (e.g. slides) relevant to what's going on in the room the user is 
in.
Implementing this would take some server-side changes. [ACTION] On the next 
call
that Jamey is on, the group will further discuss what's needed to enable
per-room display of resources.

[29-Jul-04] Ben T. will get the H.350 engineers involved in planning for the
Fall MM demo.
- In process. The Austin people are willing to help.

[29-Jul-04] Ben T. will contact vendors about providing a PSTN gateway.
- Done; Internet2 Corporate Member VoEx (http://www.voex.com) has agreed to do
this. [ACTION] Ben T. will make further arrangements with VoEx.

[15-Jul-04] Ben T. will follow up with the Xten folks on Austin participation.
- Done; no response yet.

[15-Jul-04] Deke will contact Apple about UAs for Austin.
- Done; Apple doesn't appear to be interested.

[15-Jul-04] Ben T. will set up a subgroup to keep the client requirements doc 
up
to date.
- The group agreed that while the document needs to be updated, this may not
require a subgroup. [ACTION] Ben T. will ask Jamey if he wants to keep being 
in
charge of the client requirements doc.

[08-Jul-04] On a future call, Ben T. will schedule a discussion of 1) goals 
and
next steps for including click-to-dial directories of SIP.edu-enabled schools 
in
the Austin demo, and 2) the Stony Brook proposal for SIP.edu metadirectories.
- The Stony Brook proposal isn't on the critical path for Austin, and Ben T. 
has
been experimenting with a web proxy for click-to-dial, so this item is 
changing
to [ACTION] Ben T. will give a progress report on using a web proxy to enable
click-to-dial for SIP.edu.

[17-Jun-04] Joe will maintain a list of Austin demo goals and assignments on 
the
PIC web site.
- Still to do.

[03-Jun-04] Ben T. will get contacts for the buildout for Austin, and in
particular find out when information on the physical layout of the meeting 
will
be available.
- Done.


Dennis noted that according to Jamey the PALS server has become less stable.
Jeremy said that at the last demo, it needed to be restarted several times a
day; he suggested that before Austin it should be stable enough to run for two
or three days at a time.

Ben T. reported on his visit to UCSD to see the ActiveCampus project
(http://activecampus.ucsd.edu). While this is a successful example of a
researcher using a campus as a living lab for presence apps, the deployment is
browser-based; the only real-time element is IM. The Active Campus people are
very interested in replacing some of their stuff with SIP, in particular
replacing Jabber with SER. They are also interested in participating in 
SIP.edu.
An ActiveCampus usage study involved hundreds of undergraduates observed by
sociologists; a couple of papers came out of that. Overall the deployment 
seems
fairly cautious; they don't seem to see ActiveCampus as having anything to do
with their production campus IT deployment.

More generally, Ben T. observed that it's looking increasingly unlikely that
presence will move from demos at meetings to persistent campus deployments any
time soon. The group agreed to keep its focus on the next demo, then revisit 
its
medium-term ambitions -- wider, persistent deployments, or a continuing focus 
on
demos? -- at its meeting in Austin and in subsequent conference calls.