Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of August 3*

The date the item was assigned is in brackets.

[29-Jul-04] Ben T. will get the H.350 engineers involved in planning for the
Fall MM demo.
[29-Jul-04] Ben T. will contact vendors about providing a PSTN gateway.

[15-Jul-04] Ben T. will follow up with the Xten folks on Austin participation.
[15-Jul-04] Joe will contact Apple about UAs for Austin.
[15-Jul-04] Ben T. will set up a client management subgroup, to chase down
leads, maintain contact with vendors, keep the client requirements doc up to
date, and test clients.
[15-Jul-04] Joe will add client management to the subgroups list.

[08-Jul-04] If there is a fix to the iLBC/GSM issue from Cisco, Dennis will
report it on the SIP.edu list, and let Jeremy know if it works with his 
gateway.
[08-Jul-04] On a future call, the group will discuss 1) goals and next steps
for including click-to-dial directories of SIP.edu-enabled schools in the 
Austin
demo, and 2) the Stony Brook proposal for SIP.edu metadirectories.
[08-Jul-04] Ben T. will give Joe write access to the PIC web site.
[08-Jul-04] Joe will move this item to the web UA subgroup: [ACTION] Joe will
look into NIST SIP (http://www-x.antd.nist.gov/proj/iptel/).

[24-Jun-04] Joe and Jeremy will launch a PSTN gateway subgroup.

[17-Jun-04] Joe will maintain a list of Austin demo goals and assignments on 
the
PIC web site.
[17-Jun-04] All will review their assignments for Austin and recruit others to
help them.

[03-Jun-04] All will send Ben T. any information they have on vendors 
interested
in participating in the demo.
[03-Jun-04] Ben T. will get contacts for the buildout for Austin, and in
particular find out when information on the physical layout of the meeting 
will
be available.

*Attendees*

Joe Rork (acting chair) - Ford
Dennis Baron - MIT
Jamey Hicks - HP
Ben Teitelbaum - Internet2
Steve Blair - Penn
Xiaotao Wu - Columbia
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

The web UA group met on Monday. Steve is setting up a site for display and
editing of user preferences. The web UA will have IM connectivity; it was 
agreed
to keep messages on screen, displaying them as if you had an IM client running
in the background. The group also agreed that transferring calls based on
location would be a nice feature to have, but is probably too hard to 
implement
in time for the Fall MM.

The kiosk group also met.
- There will be a wired connection to the kiosk, so it was agreed to use a fat
sipc client and include both voice and video.
- Kiosk use will not be anonymous; users should register as if they have a
desktop client.
- There will be a USB handset, and possibly a headset as well.
- PSTN calls will be allowed. The kiosk group will continue its discussion of
whether PSTN calls should be time-limited -- on the one hand, we don't want
people to abuse the service; on the other hand, we don't want to offend people
by being overly restrictive.
- The kiosk group also discussed setting up an IM-SMS gateway. If the
vendor-provided PSTN gateway allows sending and  receiving email from 
endpoints,
this would be fairly simple to implement, but it's not a high priority.
- The kiosk group is leaning toward using Linux. Ben T. pointed out that 
Windows
might be better if we want to support a variety of UAs. The kiosk group will
take this into consideration, bearing in mind that supporting multiple UAs has
not been a goal so far, and could introduce further complexities.

The kiosk and web UA groups now have regular weekly meeting times; see Joe's
August 2 message to wg-pic for details.

Jamey called the group's attention to a new I-D that extends the PIDF format 
to
describe UA capabilities. Jamey proposes  adding this to the client 
requirements
doc. See
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-simple-prescaps-ext-01.txt and
Jamey's July 29 note to wg-pic.

A second list -- pic-dev -- has been set up for planning the fall demo; the 
idea
is to involve a wider circle of participants than the PIC WG itself. See
https://mail.internet2.edu/wws/info/pic-dev .

Ben T. noted that Jeremy is looking into expanded PIC participation in VON -- 
in
particular holding a rich presence BoF there. A demo is another possibility, 
but
not this fall; this would be a topic at the BoF.

Ben T. met with VidMid-VC to discuss using H.350 in the Fall MM demo. He's 
also
talked to the engineers at UT; they're planning on deploying WiFi 
authentication
at the Fall MM. So, leveraging this for client auto-configuration via H.350 is
still a possibility. [ACTION] Ben T. will get the H.350 engineers involved in
planning for the Fall MM demo.

The group has been doing some PALS testing; it seems to be working OK, and 
Jamey
now has lots more material in the logs to troubleshoot with. Jamey has 
modified
the script so the PALS only does domain name hijacking for people who are
registered; he needs to add a table to list exactly who should be getting
hijacked.

Ben T. has found a proxy called WebCleaner 
(http://webcleaner.sourceforge.net/)
that looks promising for use in providing click-to-dial support for SIP.edu.
Xiaotao confirmed that sipc can be configured as a helper application in order
to work with this.