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  • From: "Mike McBride (mmcbride)" <>
  • To: "wiedel" <>, <>
  • Cc: "Bob Gerdes" <>, "wg-multicast" <>
  • Subject: RE: Multicast implementations on Wireless
  • Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:07:21 -0800
  • Authentication-results: rtp-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none

The most successful iptv over wifi today combines 11n with unicast over
the air (multicast down to the edge then convert).

AMT could therefore be another good solution here although that means
you are dealing another tunnel in addition to CAPWAP.

mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wiedel
> [mailto:]
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:57 AM
> To:
>
> Cc: Bob Gerdes; wg-multicast
> Subject: Re: Multicast implementations on Wireless
>
> Folks,
> I don't want to be a commercial here, but you might check out
> Ruckus Wireless if you are doing IPTV. They grew up in that space
and
> have just patented some multicast delivery systems for IPTV.
> Apparently
> in use at several hotels with success for HDTV as well as standard
def.
> www.ruckuswireless.com would be their home page.
> James
>
>
>
> Greg Shepherd wrote:
> > This seems like an ideal deployment scenario for AMT.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Bob Gerdes
> > <>
> wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >> In previous exchanges, there have been discussions regarding
> >> implementations of multicast on various wireless networks (one
noted
> below).
> >> In another, folks were going to check with specific vendors.
> >>
> >> We are looking for any cases where multicast (especially
multiple
> IPTV
> >> channels) has been implemented on a wireless network for mobile
> users.
> >>
> >> In checking with different vendors, we had a conversation with a
> >> distributor who is suggesting that wireless vendors are
implementing
> a
> >> streaming service to redistribute a multicast stream. In another,
> apparently
> >> some folks have had some success with Aruba, but haven't gotten
> followup
> >> info yet. So, hopefully you might have some better experiences or
> updates
> >> since last year.
> >> Thanks for your considersation,
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> Backgroud: our group is working with our TV group on an IPTV pilot
> service
> >> using VideoFurnace/Haivision servers. We have been working with our
> >> networking group to get multicast working across campus. Our
> Wireless group
> >> uses Meru access points and BlueSocket for authentication and
> policy, but
> >> they have not been able to make progress with multicast on
Wireless.
> One
> >> issue is that we would need to move the infrastructure to 802.11N
or
> better.
> >>
> >> Bob Gerdes
> >> Office of Instructional and Research Technologies (OIRT)
> >> Rutgers, The State University
> >> Phone: (732) 445-1438 Fax: 445-5539
> >>
> >> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Alan Crosswell wrote:
> >>
> >> Subject : Re: notes from BoF
> >>
> >>> Multicast WG BoF Wed Oct 15, 2008
> >>>
> >>> Items discussed follow:
> >>>
> >>> * High bandwidth multicast over WiFi
> >>> - no progress on getting any significant information from vendors
> other
> >>> than the realization that there are a number of problems with
> >>> rate limiting, flooding, sending all multicast down tunnels to
> APs, etc.
> >>> - See Bruce's mail regarding Cisco APs and roaming.
> >>



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