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Re: Fwd: Multicast from Orinoco wireless stations


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  • From: Steve Shultz <>
  • To: "Marshall Eubanks" <>, "wg-multicast" <>
  • Cc: Andrew Daviel <>
  • Subject: Re: Fwd: Multicast from Orinoco wireless stations
  • Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:33:54 -0800

NREN has been filtering this at it border routers for some time below is our recommended filter list

    ! domain-local applications
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 224.0.1.2     ! SGI-Dogfight
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 224.0.1.3     ! Rwhod
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 224.0.1.8     ! SUN NIS+
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 224.0.1.22    ! SVRLOC
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 224.0.1.24    ! Microsoft-DS
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 224.0.1.35    ! SVRLOC-DA
    ! auto-rp groups
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 224.0.1.39    ! CISCO-RP-ANNOUNCE
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 224.0.1.40    ! CISCO-RP-DISCOVERY
    !
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 224.0.1.60    ! hp-device-disc
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 224.0.1.76    ! IAPP
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 224.0.2.2     ! SUN-RPC
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 224.1.0.1     ! ST Multicast Groups
    access-list 101 deny   ip any 224.77.0.0 0.0.225.255    ! Norton Ghost
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 225.1.2.3     ! Altiris
    access-list 101 deny   ip any 226.77.0.0 0.0.225.255    ! Norton Ghost
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 229.55.150.208! Norton Ghost
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 234.42.42.42  ! ImageCast
    access-list 101 deny   ip any host 234.142.142.142!ImageCast
    ! scoped groups
    access-list 101 deny   ip any 239.0.0.0 0.255.255.255
    ! loopback, private addresses (RFC 1918)
    access-list 101 deny   ip 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255  any
    access-list 101 deny   ip 127.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any
    access-list 101 deny   ip 172.16.0.0 0.15.255.255 any
    access-list 101 deny   ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 any
    ! Default SSM-range. Do not do MSDP in this range
    access-list 101 deny   ip any 232.0.0.0 0.255.255.255
    access-list 101 permit ip any any


At 03:13 PM 12/20/2003, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Well, this works (see below), in that packets are received.

Is this a real problem ? Should it just be added to Bill Nickless's list, or
is there more to do ?

Marshall

 There were  136  separate IP Addressess found
 
Total duration of  2892  RTP records  =  0 days  0  hours  48  minutes  44.2773  seconds
 
 IP Address = 67.130.52.7     | Num RTP =      8 at   0.003 pps | Average Length =    69 bytes
 IP Address = 128.174.112.246 | Num RTP =     15 at   0.005 pps | Average Length =    87 bytes
 IP Address = 128.174.112.247 | Num RTP =     16 at   0.006 pps | Average Length =    87 bytes
 IP Address = 128.2.159.10    | Num RTP =     24 at   0.008 pps | Average Length =    66 bytes
 IP Address = 128.2.159.7     | Num RTP =     25 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    66 bytes
 IP Address = 128.2.159.9     | Num RTP =     24 at   0.008 pps | Average Length =    90 bytes
 IP Address = 128.253.245.40  | Num RTP =     24 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    70 bytes
 IP Address = 128.59.25.217   | Num RTP =     21 at   0.007 pps | Average Length =    84 bytes
 IP Address = 129.217.208.77  | Num RTP =      9 at   0.003 pps | Average Length =    48 bytes
 IP Address = 131.188.173.144 | Num RTP =      9 at   0.004 pps | Average Length =    87 bytes
 IP Address = 131.188.181.240 | Num RTP =      7 at   0.003 pps | Average Length =    78 bytes
 IP Address = 131.188.181.241 | Num RTP =      7 at   0.003 pps | Average Length =    78 bytes
 IP Address = 131.247.3.160   | Num RTP =     25 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    75 bytes
 IP Address = 131.247.3.164   | Num RTP =     24 at   0.008 pps | Average Length =    75 bytes
 IP Address = 134.129.88.150  | Num RTP =     24 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    96 bytes
 IP Address = 139.165.104.201 | Num RTP =      7 at   0.003 pps | Average Length =    55 bytes
 IP Address = 139.165.115.6   | Num RTP =      5 at   0.004 pps | Average Length =    57 bytes
 IP Address = 139.165.115.9   | Num RTP =     24 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    57 bytes
 IP Address = 141.39.29.164   | Num RTP =     16 at   0.006 pps | Average Length =    86 bytes
 IP Address = 142.90.124.10   | Num RTP =     12 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    90 bytes
 IP Address = 142.90.124.11   | Num RTP =     13 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    90 bytes
 IP Address = 142.90.124.12   | Num RTP =     12 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    90 bytes
 IP Address = 142.90.124.13   | Num RTP =     13 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    90 bytes
 IP Address = 155.101.16.97   | Num RTP =     48 at   0.017 pps | Average Length =    89 bytes
 IP Address = 155.98.72.21    | Num RTP =     23 at   0.008 pps | Average Length =    76 bytes
 IP Address = 158.39.27.252   | Num RTP =      1 at   0.000 pps | Average Length =    68 bytes
 IP Address = 160.39.193.46   | Num RTP =     22 at   0.008 pps | Average Length =    78 bytes
 IP Address = 160.39.244.9    | Num RTP =     21 at   0.007 pps | Average Length =    46 bytes
 IP Address = 160.39.245.5    | Num RTP =     22 at   0.008 pps | Average Length =    78 bytes
 IP Address = 160.39.245.6    | Num RTP =     22 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    46 bytes
 IP Address = 160.39.245.7    | Num RTP =     20 at   0.007 pps | Average Length =    46 bytes
 IP Address = 160.39.245.8    | Num RTP =     22 at   0.008 pps | Average Length =    46 bytes
 IP Address = 160.39.245.9    | Num RTP =     22 at   0.008 pps | Average Length =    46 bytes
<lots more from Columbia removed>
 IP Address = 160.39.247.9    | Num RTP =     24 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    46 bytes
 IP Address = 160.39.247.     | Num RTP =      1 at   0.000 pps | Average Length =    46 bytes
 IP Address = 160.39.39.39    | Num RTP =     25 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =   107 bytes
 IP Address = 169.229.202.139 | Num RTP =      1 at   0.000 pps | Average Length =    81 bytes
 IP Address = 171.65.63.239   | Num RTP =     24 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    75 bytes
 IP Address = 193.156.3.149   | Num RTP =      5 at   0.003 pps | Average Length =    46 bytes
 IP Address = 210.107.135.242 | Num RTP =     24 at   0.009 pps | Average Length =    46 bytes
[tme@hendrix awk]$


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It seems that some Orinoco 802.11 base stations
send multicast packets on 224.0.1.76/2313 (IAPP.MCAST.NET).

By sending a multicast join (opening a socket with netcat or other tool)
to this group, one can discover other base stations on  multicast-enabled
portions of the Internet, such as the academic networks CA*net, ESnet etc.

There is administrative access to these units via telnet and http.

The group should probably be filtered at an administrative boundary as a
matter of principle.


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Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF, Canada
Tel. +1 (604) 222-7376



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