All things related to multicast

[Greg Shepherd <>]

Toerless,

Yahoo!/Broadcast used to have Real multicast content. I went poking around
today and all I could find are the WMP streams. Then, just within the past
hour AmericaOne Television at Yahoo! went dark! They pulled it, and it
looks like Yahoo! is sending less and less mcast content. All
that seems to be still available via mcast is FashionTV and
NASATV and niether of the mcast links can be found from the Yahoo
web pages. I fortunately have bookmarked them some time ago. Curiouser and
curiouser...

Greg

On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Marshall Eubanks wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:42:59 -0700
>  Toerless Eckert 
> <>
>  wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 06:30:48PM -0400, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> > > To each other, or to the world ?
> >
> > Well, i am just looking for a stream that i can receive with a
> > RealPlayer across the Internet for some testing without having to bother
> > setting up a RealServer.
> >
> > > We have not been able to get Real multicast broadcasts to work, although
> > > the players receive just fine (and we didn't try very hard).
> >
> > What streams can you receive with a RealPlayer ?
>
> Well, all of the On-the-i.com mp3 multicasts for one :)
>
> And (with the envivio plug in) the On-the-I.tv MPEG-4 streams as
> well. (I am not sure that we have tested the DIVX stream with RealOne yet.)
>
> We also have not tested the envivio plug in for WMP yet - it's not yet fully
> released. AFAIK, this will be the
> first means of playing RTP streams with WMP.
>
>
> >
> > > BTW, since Quicktime 6 is now out with MPEG-4 support, when will IPTV
> > > follow ?
> > >
> > > http://www.apple.com/quicktime/preview/quicktime6/
> >
> > I think IP/TV 3.4 FCS is either June 10 or 14 th. - forgot the exact
> > date. The problem with MPEG4 that we have is that unlike Apple we can
> > not have a free receiver with MPEG4 decoder because Cisco so far does
> > not want to spend the 1 Mio $ per year that you need to bail out of
> > the per-receiver MPEG4 license to the MPEG-LA. Apple as far as i know
> > has done this, and with their QuickTime penetration of the desktop it
> > certainly makes sense (i guess they'll also put out quicktime 6.0
> > for windows in a while, right ?).
> >
> > So with IP/TV, the standard receiver will have to be MPEG-LA licensed now.
> > I think that you get a set of licenses with each IP/TV server you buy,
> > and then you can buy additional licenses which i think more or less
> > exactly cover the license fees to be paid to the MPEG-LA. As the
> > per receiver license fee is quite low (25c per viewer for the MPEG-LA),
> > this is thus not really an issue with actual enterprise IP/TV customers,
> > but it certainly will have the effect that we can not put up this receiver
> > for free anymore for example on the webserver of Uoregon for people across
> > I2 to download it. Unless somebody develops a tool that throws a quarter
> > to Steele Street, Suite 300, Denver, CO (MPEG-LA) for every download.
> >
>
> We would love to add IPTV to our interop testing. You can send gear or code
> anytime :)
>
> > Now you should certainly be able to use QuickTime to receive IP/TV
> > 3.4 sourced MPEG4 streams, but of course the QuickTime 6.0 receiver
> > does not support SSM - unlike IP/TV 3.4, which does.
> >
>
> Yes, this needs attention...
>
> > Cheers
> >     Toerless
>
>
> Marshall
>
>