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RE: [sip.edu] ITAD-based numbering, an alternative proposal


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  • From: John Todd <>
  • To: , "Bauer, Steven J." <>
  • Subject: RE: [sip.edu] ITAD-based numbering, an alternative proposal
  • Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 10:36:31 -0700


There are actually two components of your first question about PSTN failover for ISN destinations:

1) If the ISN ENUMish(1) DNS lookup failed, would the call be routed some other way?

2) If the ISN ENUMish DNS lookup returned a set of URIs, some of which were "sip:", and some of which were "tel:" methods, could the system fail over to the PSTN?


The answer to #1 is "No", since by nature ISN dialing strings are not e.164, which is the only method by which the PSTN accepts inbound calls. But that is the same as asking if SIP URIs can be dialed on the PSTN, and the answer there is also "No" unless some PSTN-style number can be looked up and used as a dialing substitute. Thus, ISNs are no better or worse than SIP URIs if the lookup mechanism fails.

The answer to #2 is "Yes, but it depends on local and remote policy." If an ISN lookup succeeds and returns a "tel:" URI, then of course the local administrator may choose to fail over to the PSTN if the SIP path doesn't work for whatever reason. It may be the case that the remote network does not want to receive telephone calls, and therefore they do not list a "tel:" URI in their DNS tables for that ISN - both sides of this equation depend on agreeing policies, so this is not dictated by the numbering scheme itself.

I think your question was really leaning towards #2, but I think it's worth noting that question #1 is also worth considering in the global scheme of things. However, DNS service can be as robust as PSTN connectivity if properly administered in a redundant network environment, so I would suggest that this is not an impediment to deployment of ISNs. (In fact, ISNs are slightly better than SIP URIs since there is the use of an ENUMish lookup which may result in a "tel:" response in the worst case, thus making the destination reachable via PSTN, unlike SIP URIs.)


Your second question is "Also, would these numbers, (ITAD * number) work for use use in the
current ENUM as a sip destination?". The answer here is "Yes" but that's because there is no required overlap between ISN and ENUM. The two systems describe a totally different method of reaching endpoints, but they both share the common digits on the 12 digit keypad. Thus, they can co-exist without any difficulty. The confusion on my note portion below perhaps is that it is _possible_ for a local administrator to use e.164 numbering as a subscriber identifier. This is at the discretion of the local administrator.


(1) ENUMish = "ENUM-like" but I got tired of typing "ENUM-like", so I adopted the diminutive "-ish" as a suffix. Seems to work for me, since the term "ENUM" is very specifically using the "e164.arpa" suffix, which is not the case here or for any of the multiplying legions of ENUMish root zones.

JT


At 9:38 AM -0600 8/5/05, Bauer, Steven J. wrote:

Would there be an automated method to fall back to the normal pstn
provided the VoIP connection didn't work for some reason?
Also, would these numbers, (ITAD * number) work for use use in the
current ENUM as a sip destination?
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: John Todd
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Subject: Re: [sip.edu] ITAD-based numbering, an alternative proposal

7) I am unconvinced that e.164 numbers should be forbidden as part of
the identifier, regardless of if the "*" or run-length value is used
as an ITAD delimitation method. It may be good practice to actually
go out of one's way to _include_ the e.164 numbers as an alias
identifier for a domain.
Let's say I have Penny's business card with -only- her e.164 number
on it (16095551212), and I know that Penny is a professor at Banzai
University (BU). Because I often communicate with other staff at BU,
I happen to know that the ITAD for the BU is 1984. Or perhaps I
looked up BU's ITAD in the on-line ITAD directory. If the
administrator at BU has been clever and followed the hypothetical
best practices document, then for every e.164 number that BU is
allocated from various PSTN providers is _also_ mapped in an internal
system on BU's SIP proxies. So, I could guess and dial
16095551212*1984 and it would map to a device which would reach
Penny. Recall that these directory listings do NOT pollute the true
ENUM root nor should they cause any confusion, because they are
essentially local requests within the entity. Of course, every
entity needs to maintain that list however they see fit - there can
be as many or as diverse a set of aliases as would be deemed
appropriate for that enterprise. Perhaps
5551212@1984
maps to Penny,
as does
1212@1984.
Other numbers which are not part of previous
e.164 mappings may also map to Penny - this is totally up to the
local administrator, and it may make sense for some entities to
install full e.164 mappings in their tables to make "guess-able"
transitions possible even if only the e.164 number and organization
is known by a caller. Some sites might use it, some might not, but
why limit the obvious mappings?

JT




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