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  • From: "Tom Scavo" <>
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  • Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:35:14 -0400
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On 7/29/06, Scott Cantor
<>
wrote:

> - The SAML Assertion Query/Request Profile [SAML2Prof]?

Yeah, but I don't know about in the SP yet. I hope not to.

No problem, it's the IdP side I'm interested in anyway. Specifically,
the attribute query.

> - The SAML Attribute Sharing Profile for X.509
> Authentication-based Systems?

I doubt it, not until it's clearer what it actually means. I don't really
understand the purpose of that profile from a technical point of view (the
X.509 part doesn't belong in SAML at all).

What X.509 part? Are you referring to the use of X509SubjectName identifiers?

If all it's asking for is a bunch of specific knobs to be turned, then I
think all the knobs will be there, so maybe in that sense it's "supported".

I doubt it's that simple. For one thing, the IdP must be able to map
an X509SubjectName identifier to a principal name. That's what
GridShib does, so think of GridShib as an implementation of the
Attribute Sharing Profile.

In that sense, I suppose I've answered my own question. So the real
question is: Will Shib 2.0 support the SAML V2.0 Assertion
Query/Request Profile at the IdP. We need that, I think, since the
Attribute Sharing Profile is an extension of the Query/Request
Profile.

> How will a Shib 2.x IdP call out its support of one or more of these
> profiles without breaking backward compatibility with the Shib 1.3 SP?

Nothing old is changing (broken or not) and nothing new conflicts with
anything old.

Well, I could be missing something, but there seems to be a real
problem here. So the Shib 2.0 IdP will have AA endpoints that support
Shib 1.x attribute exchange, SAML V1.1 Attribute Query Profile
(currently being written), SAML V2.0 Assertion Query/Request Profile,
and SAML V2.0 Attribute Sharing Profile (standards track). How does
an SP find an endpoint that supports a specific profile?

Tom



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