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  • From: "RL 'Bob' Morgan" <>
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  • Subject: Re: High Level Java SP Design Overview
  • Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 09:02:05 -0700 (PDT)


Hmm, what is a SAML SP other than an implementation of the SAML web browser signon profiles?

An implementation of the other profiles?

What other profiles would those be? You mean ECP?

What functionality would be provided to support non-web applications? WS-Sec SAML token profile? Seems like support for use of SAML in non-web scenarios would be in opensaml, or in code specific to those scenarios.

This isn't defined yet, as the email said. A project I'm working on happens to use WS-Security with the ECP profile, others I'm sure will use other things. My assertion was that people were more likely to try to do that stuff with this code base than the C++ one.

You are offering a design principle based on this assertion (which is reasonable as far as it goes) and I'm saying that it is hard to understand where this principle leads if the non-web profiles aren't defined yet.

As long as I'm thinking about it, is WS-Fed support going to be in the 2.0 Java SP?

At this moment I'm not planning on anything other than SAML support. I can't imagine why we'd support WS-Fed when the author of the "spec" isn't going to.

Eh, what? Do you mean Microsoft? They continue to support WS-Fed. If you're thinking that their touting of CardSpace/id-metasystem means they're abandoning WS-Fed, this is not true at all. They're quite unrelated, except as being different approaches to the broad problem of user identity.

- RL "Bob"




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