shibboleth-dev - Re: WAYF-first authentication
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- From: "RL 'Bob' Morgan" <>
- To: Ian Young <>
- Cc: Shibboleth Dev Team <>
- Subject: Re: WAYF-first authentication
- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:58:32 -0700 (PDT)
We have a circumstance in which it makes sense to have an image button on a web page that just goes directly to our WAYF, like this:
<form action="https://wayf.sdss.ac.uk/shibboleth-wayf/WAYF">
<input id="Shib" type="image" src="..." title="..."/>
<input type="hidden" name="shire" value="...">
<input type="hidden" name="providerId" value="...">
<input type="hidden" name="target" value="...">
</form>
This works fine, by the way, that isn't the question :-) The question is whether it is *supposed* to work, according to the Shibboleth architecture.
As a different but somewhat related example of what you can do, consider this demo page put together by my clever colleague Jim Fox:
https://mao.u.washington.edu/chooser/
(disclaimer: just a demo, may not work when you go to look at it). This box is an SP, so this is SP-first, but the links on it are crafted up to take the user either to the InCommon WAYF, direct to the UW IdP/HS, or direct to the Internet2 IdP/HS. He did this as an example for a vendor we're working with to be a Shib SP, to show that they could come up with pages that would be per-customer, or per-federation, or whatever. To tie this more closely to your point, the "target=" in the links on that page could just as easily be for other SPs. You might call this "benevolent cross-site scripting" ... 8^)
Step 1 in this diagram is described as a required interaction.
I suppose the easiest thing would be just to make step 1 optional also in that sequence diagram.
I suppose the right thing is to describe several different sequences, to show the range of possibilities. I think this would be done in our proposed Shib overview doc rather than in protocols/profiles spec.
- RL "Bob"
- WAYF-first authentication, Ian Young, 10/29/2004
- RE: WAYF-first authentication, Howard Gilbert, 10/29/2004
- Re: WAYF-first authentication, Ian Young, 10/29/2004
- RE: WAYF-first authentication, Howard Gilbert, 10/29/2004
- Re: WAYF-first authentication, Ian Young, 10/29/2004
- RE: WAYF-first authentication, Scott Cantor, 10/29/2004
- Re: WAYF-first authentication, RL 'Bob' Morgan, 10/29/2004
- RE: WAYF-first authentication, Howard Gilbert, 10/29/2004
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