perfSONAR User Q&A and Other Discussion

[Victor Olifer <>]

Hi Alan,

It is quite stable, about 15.0 PPM. I received updated RPMs from Aaron Brown 
(haven’t tried them yet), hopefully it is just a bug.

Best,
Victor

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Date: Friday, 30 May 2014 16:10
To: Victor Olifer 
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Subject: Re: [perfsonar-user] time too long

Hi Victor,

What is the frequency offset on the physical host?

As reported in loopstats, or 'ntptime' ?

-Alan

On May 30, 2014 3:51:11 AM HST, Victor Olifer 
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Hi Roland, Angela, all,

I’m experiencing something similar to what Angela described with one of my 
servers running owamp and my investigation of the NTP statistics files such 
as loopstats and peerstats shows that it is likely not a NTP problem.

In more detail:


  *   I’m running ps toolkit with owamp 3.4 on a virtual machine (VMWare) and 
this owamp instance produces plausible measurements with a good precision 
(tested against a CARNET host)
  *   I’m also running  owamp 3.4 installed as a RPM on a physical host under 
CentOS 6.4; this owamp instances produces obviously wrong measurements, for 
example, against the ps toolkit host the results oscillate in +/- 800 ms 
range being in 1 hop from each other.
  *   NTP configs of both hosts are identical – they are synced with the same 
set of Janet production NTP servers; owampd.conf files are also identical.
  *   Analysing NTP statistics, loopstats in
particular, shows the similar and good precision of both local clocks: the 
clock offset on both hosts doesn’t exceed +/- 0.0006 s on both hosts, the rpm 
owamp host mostly shows even better precision than ps toolkit which is 
probably understandable taking into account virtual environment of the latter.

So, I see no reason to blame the bad NTP sync  and see no way forward to 
troubleshoot the RPM instance of owamp.  Any ideas would be much appreciated.

All the best,
Victor Olifer
Technical Specialist
Janet

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Date: Tuesday, 27 May 2014 09:05
To: 陳怡安 
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Subject: RE: [perfsonar-user] time too long

Hi
Angela,

for one way delay metrics, it is important to have a well synchronized clock, 
especially when measuring between two end points very close to each other. 
The following might be resources worth to investigate:

RFC 2679<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2679> chapter 3.5
OWAMP cookbook<http://e2epi.internet2.edu/npw/binder-docs/owamp-cookbook.pdf> 
search for “NTP”

Hope that helps!

With best wishes,
Roland
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Subject: [perfsonar-user] time too long

Dear all,

I install owampd on 10.21.10.120<http://10.21.10.120>.
I uesd owping, from 10.21.11.171<http://10.21.11.171> to 
10.21.10.120<http://10.21.10.120>.
But it is too long.
I used ping, only need less than 1 ms.
Why the time of owping is too long?
Thanks in advance.

[root@angela
 ~]# owping  10.21.10.120<http://10.21.10.120>
Approximately 13.1 seconds until results available

--- owping statistics from 
[ip247.puli11-21-10.ncnu.edu.tw<http://ip247.puli11-21-10.ncnu.edu.tw><http://ip247.puli11-21-10.ncnu.edu.tw>]:8942
 to [10.21.10.120<http://10.21.10.120>]:49546 ---
SID:    0a150a78d72bbff184726d0437db9567
first:  2014-05-25T09:03:45.593
last:   2014-05-25T09:03:55.971
100 sent, 0 lost (0.000%), 0 duplicates
one-way delay min/median/max = 425/1.09e+03/1.11e+03 ms, (err=0.969 ms)
one-way jitter = 16.3 ms (P95-P50)
TTL not reported
no reordering


--- owping statistics from [10.21.10.120<http://10.21.10.120>]:37393 to 
[ip247.puli11-21-10.ncnu.edu.tw<http://ip247.puli11-21-10.ncnu.edu.tw><http://ip247.puli11-21-10.ncnu.edu.tw>]:8874
 ---
SID:    0a150bf7d72bbff06ace57103357a55e
first:  2014-05-25T09:03:45.606
last:   2014-05-25T09:03:55.671
100 sent, 0 lost (0.000%), 0 duplicates
one-way delay min/median/max =
-1.11e+03/-1.09e+03/-425 ms, (err=0.969 ms)
one-way jitter = 667 ms (P95-P50)
TTL not reported
no reordering

With best regards,
Angela
May 25

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