perfSONAR User Q&A and Other Discussion

["Niederberger, Ralph" <>]

Hi all,
especially Szymon (,Candido, and Nina)

still waiting for an answer since February 26th, March 8th, and March 13th.

I just tried to use the new version perfsonarUI vers. 0.16. Again
authentication does not work.
The log is attached as Text file.
The only what I had done before the error message came up was:

Start perfsonarUI 
Choose "Enable authentication and authorization" from the "QUERY & search
options/Options-Menu"
Click on "Load metadata" from the "Execute query-Menu"

Has someone tried to solve this problem? Or do I have a new (different)
problem, than I had before with perfsonarUI v0.15b?

If MDS is in responsibility of DANTE, who should be contacted? 
I assumed that DANTE will be reading the perfsonar-user list and would
provide detailed feedback.

Best regards

Ralph

> Dear Candido and Nina,
>
> haven't got any answer yet.
>
> Does this mean I should cancel usage of "authentication services" and use
> perfsonar tools without any security?
>
> This would implicate, that access to our perfsonar MA will be possible via
a
> WWW interface only.
> I would have to control access via Web-Server access tools.
>
> Any comments?
>
> Best regards
>
> Ralph
>
> -----Ursprühe Nachricht-----
> Von: Niederberger, Ralph 
> [mailto:]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2010 13:59
> An: 
> '';
>  'Candido Rodriguez Montes'
> Cc: 
> '';
>  'Szymon Trocha'
> Betreff: AW: [perfsonar-user] perfsonarUIv0.15b: Log messages don't help
> finding error
>
> Dear Candido and Nina,
>
> I am just in the process of designing enhancements of DEISA project's
> network monitoring.
> Always having  promoted the idea of a standardized multi domain network
> monitoring as invented (or provided) by perfsonar tools, I have to realize
> that the current structure of this tool kit seems to be far away from
> production services.
>
> It is now the second time, that I am faced with a not running MDS service
> (maybe it never has been one, instead only a project test service), which
> leads to the problem, that I am not able to proceed with my project's
goals.
>
> I have setup my perfsonar services with authentication and because of
> misorganization (mismanagement) cannot use them.
> Since I seem to be the only one, who is using (let me say, tries to use)
> this MDS services (authentication) the question arises, if it makes sense
to
> use perfsonar authentication services at all.
>
> If it is a project service only, you should not promote it and as a
> consequence I should not use it.
> If it is a production service, it has to be available all the time. And
this
> means a running server can only be shutdown, when a new server with the
same
> services is available. And this should be 24 hours/7 days a week.
> Letting the users know, after having been asked for this, that the service
> has migrated to a new location two weeks ago and that unfortunately the
> service is not the same, not providing the full software package, is not
the
> way to go.
>
> Best regards
>
> Ralph
>
>
> Von: Nina Jeliazkova 
> [mailto:]
>  
> Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2010 14:40
> An: Niederberger, Ralph
> Cc: 
> '';
>  'Candido Rodriguez Montes';
'';
 'Szymon Trocha'
> Betreff: Re: AW: [perfsonar-user] perfsonarUIv0.15b: Log messages don't
help finding error
>
> Dear Ralph,
>
> Unfortunately MDS service management and support, it is neither mine, nor
Candido's responsibility, 
> but one of DANTE , if I am not wrong.  I hope task/activity leaders could
tell us better how MDS support 
> is expected to work, and how visualisation tool developers should be
notified if some service in a 
> distributed system like perfsonar has changed its defaults.
> 
> Best regards,
> Nina
>
> -----Ursprühe Nachricht-----
> Von: Nina Jeliazkova 
> [mailto:]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2010 12:16
> An: Candido Rodriguez Montes
> Cc: 
> ;
>  Niederberger, Ralph;
> '';
>  Szymon Trocha
> Betreff: Re: [perfsonar-user] perfsonarUIv0.15b: Log messages don't help
> finding error
>
> Candido Rodriguez Montes wrote:
> > Hi Nina,
> >
> > On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Nina Jeliazkova wrote:
> >
> >>>> Candido, are there some new changes in edugain behaviour we should be
> >>>> aware of?
> >>>
> >>> Yes. The server mds.rediris.es is no more available, as it was a pilot
> >>> deployed during GEANT2 and that project is over. The new and official
> >>> MDS is https://mds.edugain.org/ .
> >>>
> >>> I noticed that problem two weeks ago but when I use the new MDS I
> >>> cannot login using GIdP, as its metadata are not ok. I sent a message
> >>> to SA2-GEANT3 and some people in Dante for fixing that problem but I'm
> >>> still waiting for that...
> >>>
> >> Do I understand right,  even if we change psUI configuration,
> >> authentication will still not work ?
> >
> > Right. However, you should change the psUI configuration with the new
> > URL https://mds.edugain.org/.
> Yes, I will.  The new Java 1.6 jnlp security is rather weird, as it
> needs the jnlp to be packaged inside a signed jar and to be the same as
> the jnlp on the web site ... otherwise the user gets a security error.
> That means it's not only editing jnlp file on the server, as before, but
> recompiling the whole package with the new jnlp with MDS URL changed
> only :(
> >
> >>> Nina, please, in the meantime change the default URL to the new one.
> >> OK.
> >>
> >> For web start this is a configuration in perfsonar.jnlp file
> >> <argument>-mhttps://mds.rediris.es:8443</argument>
> >> and a command line option -m https://mds.rediris.es:8443  if run
> >> standalone
> >>
> >> Meanwhile I've tried changing the MDS URL via the Options menu, but
> >> GEANT GIdP doesn't appear indeed.  Any hints how should we proceed?
> >
> > Nina, I don't know the answer. Someone in charge of GIdP has to update
> > the metadata in the MDS. I've sent an email to some people in Dante
> > but I haven't got an answer :(
> > As far as I know, SA2 are not managing GIdP, are they?
> Hopefully Szymon knows better.
>
> Thanks,
> Nina
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Nina
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >
> > --
> > Cáido Rodríez Montes E-mail: 
> > 
> > .....
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Message:
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.PSException: 
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.PSException: org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.PSException: 
org.perfsonar.base.exceptions.PerfSONARException: [unknown]: 
https://mds.edugain.org MDS,https://mds.edugain.org,,,,mds,mds 
MDS,https://mds.edugain.org,,,,mds,mds
Level:
    SEVERE
Stack Trace:
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.PSException: org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.PSException: 
org.perfsonar.base.exceptions.PerfSONARException: [unknown]: 
https://mds.edugain.org MDS,https://mds.edugain.org,,,,mds,mds
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AAPerfsonarRequest.prepareEnvelope(Unknown 
Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.AbstractMARequest.run(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.AbstractMARequest.makeRequest(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.SmartMARequest.makeRequest(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ma.MAPerfsonarModel$1.makeRequest(Unknown 
Source)
    
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ma.ui.actions.SetupDataRetrieveAllAction.run(Unknown
 Source)
    
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ui.actions.PerfsonarRequestAction$1.construct(Unknown
 Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ui.actions.GUIWorker$2.run(Unknown Source)
    java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.PSException: 
org.perfsonar.base.exceptions.PerfSONARException: [unknown]: 
https://mds.edugain.org MDS,https://mds.edugain.org,,,,mds,mds
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AASupport.getCertificate(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AAPerfsonarRequest.prepareEnvelope(Unknown 
Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.AbstractMARequest.run(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.AbstractMARequest.makeRequest(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.SmartMARequest.makeRequest(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ma.MAPerfsonarModel$1.makeRequest(Unknown 
Source)
    
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ma.ui.actions.SetupDataRetrieveAllAction.run(Unknown
 Source)
    
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ui.actions.PerfsonarRequestAction$1.construct(Unknown
 Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ui.actions.GUIWorker$2.run(Unknown Source)
    java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
org.perfsonar.base.exceptions.PerfSONARException: [unknown]: 
https://mds.edugain.org
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AACertificate.retrieveCertificate(Unknown 
Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AASupport.getCertificate(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AAPerfsonarRequest.prepareEnvelope(Unknown 
Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.AbstractMARequest.run(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.AbstractMARequest.makeRequest(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.SmartMARequest.makeRequest(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ma.MAPerfsonarModel$1.makeRequest(Unknown 
Source)
    
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ma.ui.actions.SetupDataRetrieveAllAction.run(Unknown
 Source)
    
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ui.actions.PerfsonarRequestAction$1.construct(Unknown
 Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ui.actions.GUIWorker$2.run(Unknown Source)
    java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
[unknown]: https://mds.edugain.org
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AACertificate.queryMDS(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AACertificate.retrieveCertificate(Unknown 
Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AASupport.getCertificate(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AAPerfsonarRequest.prepareEnvelope(Unknown 
Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.AbstractMARequest.run(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.AbstractMARequest.makeRequest(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.SmartMARequest.makeRequest(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ma.MAPerfsonarModel$1.makeRequest(Unknown 
Source)
    
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ma.ui.actions.SetupDataRetrieveAllAction.run(Unknown
 Source)
    
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ui.actions.PerfsonarRequestAction$1.construct(Unknown
 Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ui.actions.GUIWorker$2.run(Unknown Source)
    java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
[error.as.mds_query]: EduGAINMetadataService: a problem querying the MDS: null
    
org.perfsonar.client.base.authn.edugain.EduGAINMetadataService.getOrganizationList(Unknown
 Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AACertificate.queryMDS(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AACertificate.retrieveCertificate(Unknown 
Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AASupport.getCertificate(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.aa.AAPerfsonarRequest.prepareEnvelope(Unknown 
Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.AbstractMARequest.run(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.AbstractMARequest.makeRequest(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.SmartMARequest.makeRequest(Unknown Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ma.MAPerfsonarModel$1.makeRequest(Unknown 
Source)
    
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ma.ui.actions.SetupDataRetrieveAllAction.run(Unknown
 Source)
    
org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ui.actions.PerfsonarRequestAction$1.construct(Unknown
 Source)
    org.perfsonar.perfsonarui.ui.actions.GUIWorker$2.run(Unknown Source)
    java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

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