perfSONAR User Q&A and Other Discussion

[ulisses <>]

Hi all again

I haven't seen a reply to my previous e-mail, so I rewrite the subject 
I hope it reflects better our interests because we are interested in
installing an RRD MA

I would appreciate with expericience deploying RRD MA 

On 2006-09-18 10:35:07, ulisses wrote:
> Hi Vendrin, Andreas
> 
> Thanks for your comments, I'm sorry I could not reply before
> 
> I have made a brief summary I made based on your replies (I append it at 
> the end).
> 
> Some questions about the RRD MA:
> 
>   - It seems that everybody is using rrd files created by cacti or cricket
>   - somebody is using something else other than this? somebody using 
> mrtg/rrd?
>   - What are the requirements of the RRD MA (other than software), 
>   - what hardware is suggested?
>   - how much time is needed to setup it?
> 

comments on the other topics would be helpful for me too, maybe that it could 
be useful to put in the perfsonar websiete page an overview similar to the one
I tried to do which append afterwards.

Thanks

        Ulisses


> About all perfsonar tools:
> 
>   - nemo
>      
>       I haven't seen information in english about it
>         does it uses the RRD MA?
>         what's the setup required?
> 
>   - visual perfsonar
> 
>         I assume that also retrieves information from RRD MA, also from MP?
>         No web page of project? need more info
> 
> 
> any comment will be greatly appreciated
> 
> regards
> 
>       Ulisses
> 
> #####################################################################################
> # RRD MA
> #####################################################################################
> 
> The RRD MA stores the information that is going to be used afterwards by 
> visualization tools
> that will be described afterwards: CNM, NEMO?, Visual Perfsonar and 
> PerfsonarUI
> 
> In order to setup the RRD Type MA (needed by CNM server) easily (by using 
> existing 
> scripts) it is needed to have an alredy running cricket or cacti snmp based 
> network
> management tool.
> 
> In other words:
> 
> RRD MA doesn't communicate with routers and therefore its XML config file 
> could 
> hardly be derived from routers' configuration. Usually there is some 
> other (SNMP based) application (mrtg, cricket, cacti, etc...) 
> which gathers data from the routers and stores it in RRD files. There are 
> already some
> contrib scripts, able to generate automatically RRD MA's XML config by
> querying either cricket's or cacti's data stores.
> 
> 
> #####################################################################################
> # CNM
> #####################################################################################
> 
>       + shows network topology using hierarchical maps
>       + information displayed includes (if provided by MA -- Measurement 
> Archive)
> 
>         - downs and warnings on interfaces
>         - link capacity
>       - link utilization
>       - link utilization rate
>       - ippm_default_loss
>       - ippm_default_max_ipdv
>       - ippm_default_duplicate_packets
> 
>       + displays historic information, again if provided by the MA
> 
>       + cnm installation requires
> 
>       - java webstart for the client (GUI front end)
> 
>       - it requires an RRD type MA (Meassurement Archive) service 
>           in the backend too that has the metrics stored.
> 
>       - there is a single server which is between the
>         client (gui) and the RRD type MA, that is:
> 
>         CNM client --------- CNM server ------------ RRD type MA
>           (Java GUI)          (centralized)
>                             (at DFN only)
> 
>      + Setup:
>                          
>            - topological information (stored at DFN's CNM server) is 
> obtained by converting 
>              is-is output of router commands to the cnm data format 
> (postgres), that is: the
>            NREN must to provide this information to DFN.
> 
>       + To test it, obtain a password at 
> http://wiki.geant2.net/bin/view/JRA1/Jra1WorkingArea
>       and go to 
> http://sonar1.munich.cnm.dfn.de/cnm-app/def/jnlp/topoapplet.jnlp
> 
>       More information can be found at 
> http://wiki.perfsonar.net/jra1-wiki/index.php/CNM
> 
> #####################################################################################
> # Nemo 
> #####################################################################################
> 
>      + TODO: No information in english
>              what's the setup?
>            does it uses the RRD MA?
> 
>      + Visualization of networks as geographical maps (automatic from 
> coordinates)
>      + shows current and past network metrics
>        - port www, smtp, emule, bittorrent usage
>        - peak line load
>        - average and peak line load
>        - line capacity
>        - peak and average cpu load
>        - average packet loss
>        - median and max ping time
> 
> #####################################################################################
> # Visual Perfsonar
> #####################################################################################
> 
>      + TODO: No web page of project? need more info
>      + TODO: I assume that also retrieves information from RRD MA, also 
> from MP?
> 
>      + Shows geographical traceroute of a path
>      + Tracking of performance along a path (by concatenation of metrics)
> 
> 
> #####################################################################################
> # Perfsonar UI
> #####################################################################################
> 
> Stand alone and open source graphical user interface to query a range of 
> perfSONAR services, 
> currently RRD MA (14) and MP/Hades (1)
> 
> Setup: 
>        download of an exec or zip archive and execute the java application
>        download of two configuration files with the list of RRD MA and MPs 
> updated
> 
>