perfsonar development work

["Michael Bischoff" <>]

> Stijn Melis wrote:
>
>>> Tomcat can also start with GCJ. Sun JDK is not explicitly given as a
>>> dependency, so sun JDK should be defined as a dependency for all 
>>> perfsonar packages.
>>>
>>> Shame on you Michael ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> So, to cut a long story short: do I have to add sun-java5-jdk or
>> sun-java6-jdk to the dependencies? Gijs says yes, Cándido and Michael say 
>> I don't have to
>> change it, I'm a bit confused :)

Well that's because your at a fork in the road; You can force people to use 
only supported
configurations or you can allow people mix and match to better suit there 
integration needs.

If you go for the former you save yourself from cluttering your support 
process with issues
related to unsupported platforms. If you go for the latter you allow more 
flexibility to the
end-user.

With the first in mind, you end up with the option gijs gave you. Depend on 
sun-java
specifically as we marked that as supported platform.

With the latter in mind you lean towards Cándido approach, allow the user to 
choose his own
jdk implementation but that might lead to unsupported configurations (while 
the user might
not be aware of it at first). We had some funny issues using the GCJ during 
testing for
example.

I slightly favour the first because of the following reasons:
- you can always relax it later but the other way around might lead to a lot 
of issues /
disgruntled users.
- Since we already explicitly depend on tomcat the flexibility is already 
crippled to such
and extend that allowing the user to choose it's jvm impl still doesn't offer 
him much. (The
people that use IBM impl usually use webspere as a container not tomcat.
- bug reports would be more streamlined.
- War distribution allows you to mix and match so it's not like we totally 
restrict the
option of mixing and matching configurations.

>> At the moment for deb I have the following:
>>
>>
>> Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, tomcat5.5, tomcat5.5-exist,
>> java5-runtime | java6-runtime | java-virtual-machine
>> from
>
>> and for rpm I have this:
>>
>> # on what packages should the resulting package depend
>> Requires: tomcat5
>> Requires: tomcat5-exist
>>
>>
>> Since the rpm part doesn't mention java I presume I have to add
>> something there, right? And because the deb part already mentions java 
>> runtime, I presume
>> that one is okay, correct?
>>
>
> The problem is that the RPM's for sun java have different names for
> different distributions. I don't remember what was decided to fix this, but 
> leaving it out
> isn't a big problem as long it is clear in the installation manual that sun 
> java should be
> installed. Please take a look at the other packages on what they do with 
> this issue.
>
>


Regards,
 Michael