perfsonar development work

[Frederic LOUI <>]

Cesaroni Giovanni a écrit :
> Hi,
> I would like to test the VMWARE image of RRD-MA.
>
> Cheers,
> Giovanni
>
> Frederic LOUI wrote:
> > Ben,
> >
> > I fully agree you upon all the points you quoted below...
> > and I truly believe that's a good alternative to deploy and test 
> > PerfSONAR services...
> >
> > But I also understand that for "power user" this is an overpowering 
> > solution.
> > Anyway, this is a matter of choice.
> >
> > My opinion is that packaging PerfSONAR si the right way to go in the 
> > long run.
> > It is also the academic choice. (deb,rpm, pkg for SOLARIS and BSD etc.)
> >
> > However, using VMWare image/Live CD is a quick way to "spread" 
> > PerfSONAR philosophy
> > at the moment and demonstrate its MULTI-DOMAIN capability at a great 
> > pace.
> >
> > Of course NREN(s) skilled enough (and having enough time) to install 
> > PerfSONAR
> > At the end everything is possible, but it is always a matter of time.
> > The learning curve regarding PerfSONAR installation is not huge,
> > but it really depends on your skills and could take some times...
> >
> > At the present time, the point is to save "this time" and demonstrate 
> > that PerfSONAR is not a "white elephant"
> > And a lot of feature can be easily accessed behind the PerfSONAR 
> > platform.
> >
> > I'm preparing VMWARE image of RRD-MA would you be intersted in 
> > testing one ?
> > If so, please just select you flavor (FreeBSD,DEBIAN stable, any 
> > flavor of UBUNTU etc.)
> > And an ftp address and I can provide you one.
> >
> > Bgrds/Frederic
> >
> > Ben Perry a écrit :
> > > The benefit of using a VM is absolutely huge.  Someone who knows what
> > > they're doing does all of the administration work, configures all of
> > > the services, and makes sure everything works flawlessly.  All
> > > accounts are created, all libraries are up to date, everything is
> > > already compiled and executing.
> > >
> > > The end user then only has to download a single file.  One file.  They
> > > load it in the free virtual player, and everything works.  They don't
> > > spend countless hours compiling, downloading different libraries,
> > > googling for why something doesn't work, asking their colleagues for
> > > help, getting frustrated, and losing interest.  They don't have to
> > > download a linux distro hand hope that it works on their hardware, let
> > > alone with PerfSonar.  They don't have to read through page after page
> > > of installation manuals.  They don't need to know about yum, apt, etc.
> > >
> > > It doesn't get any easier for an end user than downloading a single
> > > file and clicking play.
> > >
> > > On 5/31/07, Roman Lapacz 
> > > <>
> > >  wrote:
> > > > Nicolas Simar wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cesaroni Giovanni wrote:
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> What are the drawbacks of such methods?
> > > > >>> Could it be a way of providing easy to install perfsonar
> > > > >>> web-services or it will decrease their performances?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The use of VMW has no particular drawbacks other than what 
> > > > Jochen said,
> > > > >> but I don't think it is a good solution:
> > > > >> all the sw is usually installed on a linux box by the package 
> > > > manager
> > > > >> of the system (for debian apt-get, for red hat yum and so on) 
> > > > from a
> > > > >> pakage (.deb, .rpm, ..) with just a command. It will be nice to 
> > > > have
> > > > >> such a linux package of each perfsonar service.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the difference with ANT currently used?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ant is a build tool mainly for developers. I like all solutions noted
> > > > (VM, pS linux distro, package systems). I remember that some time ago
> > > > Jeff proposed to use RPM to distribute our services. We could consider
> > > > to take package solution (usually well-known) for next pS release (we
> > > > could start with rpm and deb).
> > > >
> > > > Roman
Which flavour are you interested in ?
DEBIAN one ? FreeBSD one ? Ubuntu (Feisty/Edgy/Dapper)?

Could you please provide me an ftp URL with at least 500 Meg free space ?

Thanks
Bgrds/Frederic

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