ntacpeering - Re: Agenda for 4:00 EDT call
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- From: Darrell Newcomb <>
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- Subject: Re: Agenda for 4:00 EDT call
- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:32:19 -0700
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On Apr 16, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Dale Finkelson wrote:
> The NTAC Peering and Routing Working Group call is scheduled for Tuesday
> April 16, at 4:00 EDT. Here are the call details:
> 734- 615- 7474 or 866- 411- 0013
> access code 0133542#
>
> NTAC Peering and Routing Working group
> 4/16/13, 4:00 EDT
> 4. Discussion of Connector <-> TR-CPS paths with respect to L3
> Architecture discussions.
To help with that discussion Jeff Bartig and David Crowe asked for an
outlined strawman to aide in discussion. The below (very) roughly outlines
one possible approach.
Using as a starting point the Layer3 Architecture layout/details as outlined
and shared with Internet2's l3-architecture group for review.
A key diagram from that effort is attached below. In it you'll see pencilled
in the existing links (solid lines) connecting Exchange point sites(penciled
in circles) to the IP routers. For this strawman the AL2S devices, their
links, and FIBs have been described as being out of scope for use in any
innovative way; this outlines using AL2S devices for vanilla Layer2 transport.
Over the history of CPS and now TR-CPS this area of the network (IP routers
to exchange point sites) has been the most consistently under-provisioned.
It continues to be a challenge that limits growth/usage at times and adds
overhead to manage risk there regularly. In the recent week there has been
connectors with actual usage ~ 120Gbps and ~318Gbps of connector capacity
over the 180Gbps of transmission capacity(IP routers to exchange point
sites). It's worth noting a number of connectors obtain TR-CPS service by
connection to the exchange point routers; that usage isn't in those figures.
This strawman shows adding links between AL2S and the exchange point router
to support growth and the AL2S-switch arrival point for connectors.
As the l3-architecture plans have connectors establishing connections
to AL2S in replacement of links to the IP-core routers(formerly T-series
Junipers); the psuedo-wire/vlans connecting through to TR-CPS exchange point
sites could then be delivered direct from AL2S to exchange point sites. This
would potentially avoiding the cost of an additional pair of interfaces on
the IP-core routers, remove another point of failure, and relieve the legacy
IP backbone from carrying that traffic for connectors.
AL2S would not be used as backbone between exchange point sites per the above
constraints. Additionally FWIW generally it has been most economical to use
dedicated waves between exchange point sites to avoid interfaces costs on
intermediate devices, retain headroom along links used for high speed
research application, among other factors. Though this is not part of the
AL2S access being focused on the TR-CPS backbone links can be seen here:
http://atlas.grnoc.iu.edu/atlas.cgi?map_name=Internet2%20TR-CPS
A breakdown of the 10G and 100G links to support this strawman initially and
then at logical conclusion with all connectors are migrated is in the
attached spreadsheet.
Attachment:
2013-l3-arch-withtrcpslinks.pdf
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Attachment:
TR-CPS - AL2S strawman.xlsx
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- Agenda for 4:00 EDT call, Dale Finkelson, 04/16/2013
- Re: Agenda for 4:00 EDT call, Darrell Newcomb, 04/16/2013
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