netsec-sig - Re: [Security-WG] [External] RE: BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115)
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- From: Steven Wallace <>
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- Subject: Re: [Security-WG] [External] RE: BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115)
- Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:45:01 -0400
> On Apr 19, 2019, at 3:04 PM, Spurling, Shannon <> wrote:
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> You just need to be shorter than some... How many I2 participants prepend
> I1 peers so traffic will better prefer I2?
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That took a bit to fully sink in. I suspect many of us are prepending towards
our transit providers, sometimes to an extreme, to maximize the benefit of
TR-CPS. As Shannon points out that could severely handicap the transit
providers from leveraging RPKI to prevent hijacks of our networks. I had
thought that RPKI’s value to the transit providers is that they won’t have to
rely on complete IRR data to filter routes from their inter-transit provider
peering, where it’s least likely to be workable. Instead they can at least do
origin validation so long as the resource owner created ROAs, a relatively
low bar. But if we’re injecting two, four, a dozen, prepended origins then
we’re effectively announcing loud-and-clear that these are subject to a
relatively simple attack. Such an attack is more difficult than the simply
announcing the prefix from attacker’s AS.
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- [Security-WG] BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), David Farmer, 04/19/2019
- RE: [Security-WG] BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), Spurling, Shannon, 04/19/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), Michael H Lambert, 04/19/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), Brad Fleming, 04/19/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), Montgomery, Douglas (Fed), 04/19/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), David Farmer, 04/19/2019
- RE: [Security-WG] BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), Spurling, Shannon, 04/19/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] [External] RE: BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), ssw, 04/19/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] [External] RE: BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), Spurling, Shannon, 04/19/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] [External] RE: BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), Steven Wallace, 04/23/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] [External] RE: BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), David Farmer, 04/23/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] [External] RE: BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), Montgomery, Douglas (Fed), 04/23/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] [External] RE: BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), Spurling, Shannon, 04/19/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] [External] RE: BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), ssw, 04/19/2019
- RE: [Security-WG] BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), Spurling, Shannon, 04/19/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), David Farmer, 04/19/2019
- Re: [Security-WG] BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), Montgomery, Douglas (Fed), 04/19/2019
- RE: [Security-WG] BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), Spurling, Shannon, 04/19/2019
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [Security-WG] BCP for Origin validation (RFC7115), John Kristoff, 04/20/2019
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