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  • From: Andrew Gallo <>
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  • Subject: [Security-WG] RPKI follow up from TechEx
  • Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 10:12:00 -0400
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There were a couple of questions either in our WG meeting, in the RPKI session, or from other conversations that I can provide at least some updates on.

Memory footprint of RPKI:
On a Juniper router, I have one session each to two RIPE Validators. The memory usage is about 14MB for just under 90,000 records. Specifically:
show validation statistics
Total RV records: 89795
Total Replication RV records: 89795
Prefix entries: 42157
Origin-AS entries: 44898
Memory utilization: 14401823 bytes
Policy origin-validation requests: 1206555751
Valid: 39673371
Invalid: 8373274
Unknown: 1158509106
BGP import policy reevaluation notifications: 535201
inet.0, 499503
inet6.0, 35698

I've asked Juniper for more details. I have not heard back.




rsync vs rrdp (RPKI Repository Delta Protocol):
Currently, ROAs are collected primarily through rsync, which may not be the best method. There is an RFC (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8182) describing using HTTP as a distribution method.

The RIPE validator we have deployed uses rsync by default, but that can be changed via this line in the config file:
prefer.rrdp = true

After making that change, and looking at the traffic, very few TALs support rrdp. Some statistics from a full update of all the TALs:
63 TCP connections
5 used port 443, 58 used 873 (rsync)
23 used IPv4, 40 used IPv6
of the sites using 443, all were IPv4


Thank you.




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Andrew Gallo
The George Washington University

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