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  • From: "Black, Carey M." <>
  • To: "Hyzer, Chris" <>, " Mailing List" <>
  • Subject: RE: [grouper-users] electronic forms in grouper
  • Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 05:57:29 +0000

It sounds like the “starting point” for all most all of these workflows are:

                A user goes to a group and goes to the ‘ more actions, should be "Electronic forms" ‘ menu option.


                "Join" a group could kick off a workflow too. ( A special “opt-in” type condition.)



I think it would be generally more useful if workflows could be started from other “Events” too.

                Folder create, group create, membership add , membership remove , attribute values add/change/remove, etc…



Maybe Hooks could be given a way to kick off a workflow?

                Maybe even start a workflow from a workflow?

                                To allow chaining when the state of the first workflow should start a “response/sub workflow”( maybe to another set of people?)

                                Which could allow branching between workflows that would return a “value”[ID of sub workflow]  to the calling workflow?


                                Which might also allow the “10 params/input” limit to be “10 at a time/stage”. :)




It is not clear to me how actions/tasks would be implemented. ( AKA: Decide to “allow something” or “block it” and end the workflow. )

                How someone would be able to “Send an email when “X” happens in the workflow”. ( or add/remove a membership, etc…)

                Again, maybe a new kind of Workflowhook fires on: State change? On params change?



For the simple case of a “one page form” could an “eform” just call to an “eforms class” ( or gsh/jexl script?) for processing?

                Think “html form post action target” when the user is done supplying values.

                Maybe via a “message listener”?


On completion of the eform/workflow…. Can where the user is returned be controlled from inside the workflow?



Carey Matthew


From: <> On Behalf Of Hyzer, Chris
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 12:45 AM
To: Mailing List <>
Subject: [grouper-users] electronic forms in grouper


This is something we have had a lot of requests for and that we would like to start on soon (eforms / workflow / approvals)


We discussed this briefly in the last dev call.  This is the current design (not completely fleshed out yet).


Please let me know your thoughts




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