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["Hyzer, Chris" <>]

What type of database do you use?  Have you analyzed tables?  What is slow exactly and how long does whatever it is take?  How much memory does each tomcat have?

 

From: Siju Jacob <>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 4:29 PM
To: Hyzer, Chris <>; Mailing List <>
Cc: Omer Almatary <>; Nazeer Syed <>; Cyril Phillips <>
Subject: RE: [grouper-users] Planning to scale grouper to enterprise level. Could you please share the CPU information

 

Hi Team,

 

We are running Grouper 2.3.0.

Below is the number of groups and members we have at present

 

Object	Present Count	Query
Groups	27522	select count(1) from grouper_groups
Folders	2970	select count(1) from grouper_stems
Memberships	370977	select count(1) from grouper_memberships_all_v gmav

 

We are having the 2 servers with below configuration in each. Grouper UI/WS and API Binary is deployed in both he servers.

 

Grouper Applications	Server count	Architecture/OS	CPU	Memory	Disk Space	Software Version
UI/ WS/ API Binary	2	Solaris 10 (SPARC)	Sun SPARC M3000 Architecture SPARC64 VII: 2.52GHz Quad Core processors	8 GB	2x146GB Internal drives	JDK1.7.0 Apache Tomcat 8.5.12 Apache/2.2.34

 

 

Our grouper application seems to be slow with above configuration.

 

Could you please share your CPU and OS information for an enterprise level grouper deployment.

 

Thanks,

Siju

 

From: Hyzer, Chris <>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:18 AM
To: Siju Jacob <>; Mailing List <>
Cc: Omer Almatary <>; Nazeer Syed <>; Cyril Phillips <>
Subject: RE: [grouper-users] Planning to scale grouper to enterprise level. Could you please share the information

 

Those numbers don’t really look right to me…

 

I would think you would have a lot more groups.  Some groups would have a lot more members.  I would think most apps would use SAML or LDAP instead of WS.  I would think you wouldn’t have 500 concurrent UI users, that seems high.

 

Anyways, if you have that much usage, I would be most worried about the size of the database.   I would have a load balancer for UI and WS and scale that as you need to.  At Penn we have this configuration:

 

https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Penn+Grouper+deployment

 

We use:

·         WS

·         Daemon

·         UI

·         PSPNG

·         Custom ldap provisioner

Authorizations are provisioned with

·         SAML

·         LDAP

·         WS

·         SQL

We have:

Count	Object	Query
230k	Groups	select count(1) from grouper_groups
23k	Folders	select count(1) from grouper_stems
12m	Memberships	select count(1) from grouper_memberships_all_v gmav

Servers:

Note, our servers are shared with 20 java applications, Grouper UI, WS, and Daemon being three of those 20.

Server type	Server count	Memory allocated
UI	5	1.5g
WS	5	750m
Daemon	5	2.8g

Instrumentation: /grouper/grouperUi/app/UiV2Main.index?operation=UiV2Admin.instrumentation

Operation	Count
Membership changes / day	20k
UI servlet requests / day	500

 

 

 

 

From: [] On Behalf Of Siju Jacob
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 1:26 PM
To: Mailing List <>
Cc: Omer Almatary <>; Nazeer Syed <>; Cyril Phillips <>
Subject: [grouper-users] Planning to scale grouper to enterprise level. Could you please share the information

 

Hi Team,

    We are planning to scale Grouper to support the enterprise and the projected usage is approximately 500 concurrent UI users and 1500 applications making webservice calls to grouper. There will be approximately 2000 groups with 400 members  in each group.

     Does any of you have similar level of grouper usage. If yes could you please share with us the kind of infrastructure you have in place in terms of OS, memory, disk space etc..

 

     We are using grouper 2.3.0. Running on tomcat 8 and JDK 7. Currently we have 2 Unix servers.  At present our grouper usage is limited, with 20 concurrent grouper UI users and 10 applications making web service calls to grouper.

     Any advice or guidance will be of great help and would be greatly appreciated..!

 

Thanks,

Siju Jacob