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  • From: "Gettes, Michael" <>
  • To: Keith Hazelton <>
  • Cc: TIER-API <>, grouper-users <>
  • Subject: Re: [grouper-users] Re: [tier-api] grouper rabbitmq messaging
  • Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:32:38 +0000
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Yes, we are in absolute agreement.  However, my quick read (and this what we all do - quick reads) of the Grouper doc Chris published makes little to no mention of AMQP.  If I weren’t familiar with what is going on I would draw the conclusion Grouper is only supporting RabbitMQ.  All the config and such is for RabbitMQ - so if I wanted to support some other product - I would have to ask and many tend to shy away from asking.  I guess what I am requesting is for the grouper code to be AMQP oriented and not product specific - the TIER path should definitely be RabbitMQ.


On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Keith Hazelton <> wrote:

Agreed that TIER conformance is about standards compliance and not products.
BUT to have running code, we need a reference implementation of the standard. For TIER’s chosen standard, AMQP, we’re opting to use the RabbitMQ implementation for our development and sandbox instances.
To me, seems as if we’re in agreement.        --Keith
email & jabber: 
From: <> on behalf of "Gettes, Michael" <>
Date: Monday, August 7, 2017 at 07:30 
To: Chris Hyzer <>
Cc: TIER-API <>, "" <>
Subject: [grouper-users] Re: [tier-api] grouper rabbitmq messaging
I am excited about this capability.  From the conversations I have participated this work was supposed to be about supporting the AMQP protocol and not specifying the product - RabbitMQ.  AMQP is supported by nearly all the popular messaging products.  I think it would be wise to go with AMQP support for Grouper and not specify the product.

On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:39 AM, Hyzer, Chris <> wrote:
Making progress on Grouper RabbitMQ messaging.  
Got the configuration ironed out, made a rabbitmq-connector tarball, theres a patch and snapshot client release since it needed some things, and the grouperInstaller will install this component.
Still kicking the tires here...

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