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  • From: Keith Hazelton <>
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  • Subject: [grouper-users] Fwd: [MACE-Dir] Call Monday 9-April-2012, 3:00 PM EDT (UTC-4)
  • Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 05:14:49 -0500

See these items on today's MACE-Dir agenda:

2. Spinning up a new InCommon collaborative working group on identifiers

3. How should Grouper role and privilege objects be represented in SAML assertions (and/or LDAP directories)

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From: Keith Hazelton <>
Date: April 9, 2012 5:11:58 AM CDT
To: mace-dir <>
Subject: [MACE-Dir] Call Monday 9-April-2012, 3:00 PM EDT (UTC-4)

2012-04-09 3:00 pm EDT

Primary Topics this call:

1. eduPerson (201203 Draft 2) Second round of last call
   - Second round of last call opened 8 April, closes 20 April.
   - See https://spaces.internet2.edu/download/attachments/2309/eduPerson-201203-draft-02.html
   - Please give special attention to the edited version of the eduPersonPrincipalName notes.

2. Spinning up a new InCommon collaborative working group on identifiers
   - See Scott Cantor email of April 5 "[TAC-InC] '"Statement of work" for a collab group on identifiers'  copied below

3. How should Grouper role and privilege objects be represented in SAML assertions (and/or LDAP directories)
   - There were enough statements of interest in this topic to merit further discussion

4. eduPersonAssurance and LoA: Clarifying LoA usage scenarios.

5. Discussion topics for the I2 Spring Member Meeting MACE-Dir WG session
   - See https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/macedir/Spring+2012+Internet+Member+Meeting+session+topics

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**New Action Items from Last Call**

[AI] (Keith: Done) will make some final changes to the new rev of eduPerson and then issue a last call.
[AI] (ChrisP) will generate some use cases related to ePPN and ePTID
[AI] (ScottC: Done) will synthesize a set of problem statements related to ePPN and ePTID
[AI] (SteveO: Done) will setup a wiki page for collecting suggested topics for the Spring 2012 Internet2 Member Meeting: https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/macedir/Spring+2012+Internet+Member+Meeting+session+topics

**Carryover Action Items**

[AI] (Keith: Done/OBE) will coordinate with CliffL and KenK about a proposed session on scholarly identity at the upcoming Spring Internet2 Member Meeting.
[AI] (MichaelP and Keith) will draft a set of clarifying questions about
controlled vocabulary related to roles in a course offering.
[AI] (Keith) will edit the previous versions of the SAML Attribute
Profiles documents to note that they have been superseded by a newer
version
[AI] (All) carry on the isMemberOf conversation, in reply to Tom
Zeller's email of 24-Jan
[AI] (All) are encouraged to learn more about ORCID and contribute in
the wiki:
https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/macedir/ORCID+and+Scholarly
+Identity
[AI] (RL "Bob") will distribute information about the UW person registry
web service.

Agenda:

0. Administration
- Roll call
- Agenda bash
- Approve minutes from the 12-March MACE-Dir call (distributed by SteveO
same day)
- Intellectual Property Rights Policy Reminder:
<http://www.internet2.edu/membership/ip.html>
- Action item review

1. eduPerson (201203 Draft 2) Second round of last call
   - Second round of last call opened 8 April, closes 20 April.
   - See https://spaces.internet2.edu/download/attachments/2309/eduPerson-201203-draft-02.html
   - Please give special attention to the edited version of the eduPersonPrincipalName notes.

2. Spinning up a new InCommon collaborative working group on identifiers
   - See Scott Cantor email of April 5 "[TAC-InC] '"Statement of work" for a collab group on identifiers'  copied below

3. How should Grouper role and privilege objects be represented in SAML assertions (and/or LDAP directories)
   - There were enough statements of interest in this topic to merit further discussion

4. eduPersonAssurance and LoA: Clarifying LoA usage scenarios.

5. Discussion topics for the I2 Spring Member Meeting MACE-Dir WG session
   - See https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/macedir/Spring+2012+Internet+Member+Meeting+session+topics

97. Write-in agenda items

98. Review new action items

99. Next call:
 The next scheduled call is usurped by the Internet2 Spring Member Meeting. The MACE-Dir WG Session is Monday, April 23 at 8:00 am EDT
 Next call: 7 May at 3:00 pm Eastern (Daylight) Time US
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"Statement of work" for a collab group on identifiers

I forgot I guess I offered to draft a short statement on what the goals of
a group to work on identifiers would be.

I think Mark's comment remains a really good start:
To better understand the motivations behind the current misuse of
attributes and how best to help solve immediate problems while steering
implementers toward better practices.


So how about:

"A challenging aspect of federating applications and achieving
interoperability across the large and diverse set of identity-providing
organizations in InCommon centers around the identification of users and
the storage of user account information in application databases. We term
the attributes used for these purposes "identifiers". A number of
identifier attributes exist, with different properties, but often their
limitations are unclear to service providers, and applicatons that were
designed in a non-federated past  may have limitations that require
compromises.

The proposed group would like to better understand the motivations behind
current use (and misuse) of identifiers, and how best to help solve
immediate problems while steering implementers of federated services
toward better practices."

-- Scott
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Keith Hazelton ()
UW-Madison; Internet2 MACE



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