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Re: [grouper-dev] Notes and Action Items from Grouper Call Aug 10, 2016

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  • From: Michael R Gettes <>
  • To: Emily Eisbruch <>
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  • Subject: Re: [grouper-dev] Notes and Action Items from Grouper Call Aug 10, 2016
  • Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:36:06 -0400 (EDT)
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I have been unable to recreate the loader issue.  For 2 days it happened regularly and consistently.  No changes to grouper, no restart, nothing and then it just stopped happening.

You should remove this item from the list on issue round up.



On Aug 24, 2016 8:33 AM, Emily Eisbruch <> wrote:

Notes and Action Items from Grouper Call  Aug 10, 2016


Chris Hyzer, Penn, chair

Shilen Patel, , Duke

Bert Bee-Lindgren, Georgia Tech

Jim Fox, U. Washington

Misagh Moayyed, Unicon

Bill Thompson, Lafayette

Emily Eisbruch, Internet2

Action Items

[AI] (Chris) Configure sources.xml as properties file,

[AI] (Chris) work on ehcache xml (currently in progress)

[AI] (Shilen) Work on  rules and effective memberships (Jira recently opened)

  • Put this in 2.3.1 or 2.4?

  • Shilen will decide - Shilen will start working in master

  • There will be some data  migration involved

    • Need(?) Another check-type created and migrate to it

  • For example: Veto if not eligible

    • Two choices

      • Rule in Transaction

      • Rule in Changelog

        • No user feedback

        • User would be added and then removed

  • Discussion result: Shilen to look at shorthand methods that should be changed and bring back information next call

[AI]  (Bert) respond to inquiry on Grouper-Users list on June 30  re pspng error,

[AI]  (Chris)  Add to jira or roadmap and talk to Bert and John Gasper re Rules on an individual’s membership),  

[AI] (Bert) Put these in jira: Grace Periods, Membership Rules, People/Account subjects

[AI] (Misagh and Chris) work together on merge of multiple web.xml files for the gradle work (keep it)

[AI] (Misagh) create JIRA about patches and directories created during install (done)

[AI] (Bert) Create patch for case-sensitivity issue 

[AI]  (Emily) switch Chris’s  Camtasia licence  from PC to MAC (keep it)

[AI] Bert and GT team will look at the Grouper Deployment Guide authored by Columbia U , and Bill Thompson, and see how to share the helpful info in it

[AI] (Bert)  document the solution to “turn off old psp issue” that was raised on the list

[AI] (Bert) create Grouper-training videos. wiki has details on how to do the videos.

[AI] (Bert) create PSP-NG Training Video (after necessary patches) using Camtasia



 Current work tasks

Vivek – TIER API

  • Progress being made, was presented at a TIER call

  • Can do a SCIM Group CRUD operation

  • Will be working on handling memberships and subjects

Misagh - gradle

  • Misagh needs help from Chris to figure out a few issues

  • Possibly another 3 months of work on this

Bert – PSPNG

  • Working to get into JIRA

  • Is PSP NG in production anywhere yet?

  • Not sure, but it  will be in prod within a month at GA Tech

  • interested in PSPNG with AD

    • Bert is available to help with PSPNG with AD

  • PSPNG at Penn doc

Chris – patches, new WS call for Brown, config overlays

  • Working on PSPNG at Penn

Shilen – Patches

  • Rules and effective memberships

  • Patch on child stems

Grouper Deployment Guide Effort

  • TIER Grouper Deployment Guide   - Bill Thompson

  • Goal is to have future Grouper deployments look more alike.

  • Mailing list is  

  • Suggestion to use the alternate week Wed noon ET timeslot (the weeks Grouper-dev is NOT meeting)  Then could use same phone bridge as for Grouper calls

  • Establish participants (James Babb, Jon Miner, Brian Savage?, Hyzer?, Shilen?, Bert)

    • Join 

    • Subscribe via this link 

  • Review TIER Grouper Deployment Guide Proposal

  • Review NIST 800-162 ABAC (adopt terminology?)

  • Review Columbia Grouper Deployment Guide

  • Review Grouper wiki examples (folders, community examples, etc)

  • Draft initial outline and content for presentation/review at TechX

  • Technical changes can be made… doesn’t have to be Grouper-As-Is

    • Make template easy to implement (group hierarchy, eg)

    • Goal: Avoid doing the same 12+ steps every time someone stands up Grouper


·         Instrumentation work under the TIER project 

  • Shilen working on this   

TIER Packaging

  • Levvel IO (consultant) working on it

  • Direction is to have a package for UI web service, and loader that is a docker container

 Issue roundup

·         CSRF issue Imholz, [New version of tomcat fixed this]

·         Michael Gettes loader issue

·         Browse groups 1.6 (not supported)

·         Web Service for external users [Done, create, search, delete]

·         LDAP load groups and users with custom EL class [Example on wiki]

·         VIEW privilege on STEM bug fix patch from Shilen

·         Grouper-ws default url not known [AI]

·         Team Collaboration Tool: Migrate from hipchat to slack (at some point)

·         Pspng at penn

·         Pspng build [AI/Jira- Bert]

·         Default “etc” folder in institution configured in one place

·         Auckland contrib

·         Comparing commits is done [!]

·         Patching and upgrading source dirs.

·         Neha from MD and roadmap

·         Audits, security, web service, privilege

·         Delete wiki Grouper_old-no-longer-users (This is now done, Emily will forward info to Chris on this)

·         Task to fix PIT and grouperset objects and such ongoing and fix bad memberships ets [post-instrumentation work]


Internet2 Tech Ex in Miami

  • Grouper BOF at Tech Ex in Miami

Tuesday 9/27/16 2:30PM-3:20PM

  • Grouper Provisioning: Locally and Cloud program session at Tech Ex in Miami

Monday, 09/26/16 10:20AM-11:10AM

Bill will be a speaker at this talk along with Bert and Chris

[AI] Emily add Bill to the speaker list (done)

Next Grouper Call: Wed Aug 24 at noon ET

Emily Eisbruch, Work Group Lead, Trust and Identity

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