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  • From: "William G. Thompson, Jr." <>
  • To: Michael Girgis <>
  • Cc: Grouper Dev <>
  • Subject: Re: [grouper-dev] Multiple UIs
  • Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:36:16 -0400

Hi Micheal,

I tend to think of at least 3 different general UX categories when
thinking about access/group management with Grouper.

1) IAM Technical Staff
Responsible for install/configure/maintain Grouper and centrally
managed groups, roles, permissions, etc. Has deep knowledge of IAM
architecture, data, access management concepts, policy, etc. Needs
full access to Grouper administration.

2) Department/Distributed possibly-non-technical staff
Responsible for ensuring proper authorization via roles and group
assignment. Understands access management concepts and policy. Needs
access to simplified group and role administration.

3) Distributed non-technical staff
Makes authorization decisions as part of an application workflow or
service request. May not understand access management concepts or
policy. The Duke Toolkit is a great example of this.

So, I don't know if we need multiple UIs per se, but surely we need
multiple UX whether that's in a one system or not.


On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Michael Girgis
> Hi everyone.
> I'm interested in collecting some feedback regarding your thoughts on the
> need for multiple Grouper UIs. As you know, right now we have two UIs, the
> Admin UI and the Lite UI. As we move forward with a UI redesign, we'll need
> to decide if we're going to redesign both UIs, enhance just one or the
> other, or integrate them into one.
> I'm going to take the optimistic route, and suggest that if we design a
> single interface effectively, maybe we can successfully combine both into
> one, and even reduce some overhead along the way. As I understand it, the
> most important features of the Lite UI are:
> * removes excess clutter for intermediate users
> * provides ability to deep link directly to a group's management screen
> So perhaps as we redesign a single UI, we can pay special attention to
> providing the ability to "hide" advanced features (which is already done to
> some extent in the Lite UI). For example, we could include a tree for
> navigating folders and groups which could exist in a collapsible left
> column - since lite users may not need to access more than one group, they
> can leave this collapsed at all times. And maybe it would be possible to
> save some of those UI settings in a user's preferences or session so that
> she doesn't need to adjust things everytime she accesses the site.
> Regarding deep-linking, is that not an option in the Admin UI, or is it
> mainly that the page you would link to is just not as user-friendly as in
> the Lite UI?
> As I'm still very new to this project, perhaps I'm over simplifying. But
> I'm interested to know what everyone thinks.
> Thanks in advance,
> Michael Girgis
> University of Chicago

  • Re: [grouper-dev] Multiple UIs, William G. Thompson, Jr., 07/10/2012

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