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Re: [grouper-dev] Multiple UIs

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  • From: Michael Girgis <>
  • To: "GW Brown, Information Systems and Computing" <>
  • Cc: Grouper Dev <>
  • Subject: Re: [grouper-dev] Multiple UIs
  • Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:29:35 +0000
  • Accept-language: en-US

We're talking about creating what could potentially be a very AJAX-rich
interface, so although cross-browser compatibility and accessibility is less
of a concern than many years ago, I'd say we still have to be pretty careful
with what we're building. Employing ARIA roles everywhere will probably be

On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:26 AM, GW Brown, Information Systems and Computing

> --On 27 June 2012 14:03 +0000 Michael Girgis
> <>
> wrote:
>> Hi everyone.
>> I'm interested in collecting some feedback regarding your thoughts on the
>> need for multiple Grouper UIs. As you know, right now we have two UIs,
>> the Admin UI and the Lite UI. As we move forward with a UI redesign,
>> we'll need to decide if we're going to redesign both UIs, enhance just
>> one or the other, or integrate them into one.
>> I'm going to take the optimistic route, and suggest that if we design a
>> single interface effectively, maybe we can successfully combine both into
>> one, and even reduce some overhead along the way.
> I think that is the right approach.
>> As I understand it, the
>> most important features of the Lite UI are:
>> * removes excess clutter for intermediate users
>> * provides ability to deep link directly to a group's management screen
>> So perhaps as we redesign a single UI, we can pay special attention to
>> providing the ability to "hide" advanced features (which is already done
>> to some extent in the Lite UI). For example, we could include a tree for
>> navigating folders and groups which could exist in a collapsible left
>> column - since lite users may not need to access more than one group,
>> they can leave this collapsed at all times. And maybe it would be
>> possible to save some of those UI settings in a user's preferences or
>> session so that she doesn't need to adjust things everytime she accesses
>> the site.
> Probably a combination of user preferences (better stored in the database)
> and entry point (or passed parameters)
>> Regarding deep-linking, is that not an option in the Admin UI, or is it
>> mainly that the page you would link to is just not as user-friendly as in
>> the Lite UI?
> That was an oversight on my part. If you are not already logged into the
> admin UI the login process always takes you to the same start page
> regardless of where you were trying to get to. That wouldn't be difficult
> to change
>> As I'm still very new to this project, perhaps I'm over simplifying. But
>> I'm interested to know what everyone thinks.
> The Admin UI pre-dated AJAX and I deliberately avoided Javascript due to
> cross-browser and accessibility issues. Things have moved on and the use of
> a tree widget and AJAX dialogs should make for a better experience. Some
> tasks are suited to a wizard like approach and they are definitely better
> achieved through dialogs.
> Gary
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Michael Girgis
>> University of Chicago
> ----------------------
> GW Brown, IT Services

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