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  • Subject: Draft Minutes: Grouper WG call 26-Jul-06
  • Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:51:14 -0400
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Grouper Conference Call
July 26, 2006

Tom Barton, U. Chicago (chair)
Gary Brown, U. Bristol
Joy Veronneau, U. Cornell
Brendan Bellina, USC
Steve Olshansky, Internet2
Ann West, EDUCAUSE/Internet2
Jessica Bibbee, Internet2 (scribe)

New *Action Items*
[AI] {Tom} will email the list with additions to the list of potential topics for a future design agenda.

Carry-Over *Action Items*
[AI] {Tom} will work with {SteveO} to create higher-level screenshots. (12-Jul-06)
[AI] {Blair} will send out an updated bug list for the 3rd party libs.
[AI] {Minh} will propose a test for sorting, and/or write the code and send to the list for discussion.  (3-May-06)

There will be an NMI-EDIT Signet/Grouper CAMP workshop this fall, November 7-9 in Denver CO. Stay tuned for updates with additional venue and program information.

Grouper v1.0 was made available as ready for production deployment (cf. Tom's email 20-Jul-06). {Tom's} announcement also detailed the features supported in v1.0, components, and Grouper wiki.

As a reminder, the Grouper wiki is now open to the public for viewing both product and project information: <>. Joy asked a question regarding how to bootstrap a person in a wheel group. The FAQ page is editable by Grouper Working Group members.

Additional documentation items and responsibility were covered, including Campus Management documents, Custom Group Types, a high-level feature list, and the API Developer's Guide. {Joy} commented that the QuickStart documentation has been useful.

{Joy} expressed interest in uploading a list of subjects into a group vs. loading one subject at a time. The Group agreed that this would be a beneficial item, and discussed various formats for entering the subject lists.

{Joy} also discussed a Helpdesk issue as a possible use case (cf. email 25-Jul), where they would be interested in viewing all groups and also netIDs. There are some privacy concerns with identifying groups which may need to remain *secret*, e.g., a list of people who are notified when the University needs to be closed, etc. Other groups have larger security concerns and are not interested in involving the Helpdesk.

The next Grouper release, v1.1 will contain a majority of bug fixes, as opposed to feature enhancements. Future enhancements include work on the UI search capabilities. {Tom} raised a list of potential design topics for upcoming work:

- aging of groups & memberships
- sorting of various lists of things in the UI
- history, notification
- audit capabilities
- provisioning connectors
- live interfaces for query, management
- other
+ resources to address these

{Gary} suggested placing a reference for a group; provide a link to a group, rather than moving it physically to a repository. This would allow for a continual browsing experience, amid changes. This may also require changing the stem to match the overall naming scheme. [AI] {Tom} will email the list with additions to the list of potential topics for a future design agenda.

The next scheduled Grouper WG call will be Wednesday, 9-Aug at 12pm EDT.

  • Draft Minutes: Grouper WG call 26-Jul-06, Jessica Bibbee, 07/31/2006

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