Attending
Heather Flanagan, Internet2 (chair) Ken Klingenstein, Internet2 Steven Carmody, Brown Keith Hazelton, U-W, Madison RL “Bob” Morgan, U-Washington Benn Oshrin, Internet2 Steve Olshansky, Internet2 Emily Eisbruch, Internet2 (scribe)
Carry Over Action Items
[AI] (Heather) will work on arranging a meeting with NSF people during SMM - ad hoc
[AI] (Steven) will extend his inquiry on iPlant and Shibboleth to Nirav
[AI] (Ken) will provide a link to the French listing regarding applications and sets/bundles of attributes.
[AI] (Ken) will contact David Groep about VOMS GUMS.
[AI] (Steven) will develop a one-page write-up on attribute aggregation.
Discussion
I2SMM - Desired Outcomes
Agenda for the COmanage WG at 2011 SMM
** roadmap review
** discussion of group management and why the group API instead of just incorporating Grouper
** how VO might handle namespace issues
** who is working on domesticating applications? What apps?
** the latest thoughts on Intake and Enrollment Process
Comments: - Keith: VO status is of interest
- Benn: At some point during the SMM, it will be important to review the plan for COmanage intake and enrollment https://spaces.internet2.edu/x/8YWAAQ
- Not sure if the COmanage WG attendees want a simple update or are ready to engage
- Heather: Are we ready to have people start to deploy?
- Benn: not exactly ready for deployment....people can test the code and provide comments
- We don’t want to present a demo at the WG. Recently, demos are taking 45 minutes on the phone
- Heather suggests a sign-up sheet for interested folks to schedule a demo 1-2 weeks post SMM
- Benn: for high impact people, we could set up a time sometime during SMM and do a demo
- Keith is interested in the Group Management bullet on the agenda
- Is COmanage already pointing to the FIFER API ?
- Benn: right now a quick and dirty method is being used.
- Chris and Benn hope to meet to talk about FIFER during the SMM,
- They are getting close to a proof of concept with a Grouper back end and a COmanage front end
COmanage Lists
- Q: Where do we direct people who are interested in COmanage, but do not belong on the COmanage-dev list?
- Which list should they be added to?
- Heather noted that COmanage lists are covered on the wiki at: https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/COmanage/Email+Lists
- Heather suggested that interested people should use the COmanage users list
- Benn stated that we are at too early a stage for a "users" list
- Don't want to have too many lists
- Suggestion to use the COmanage Community list.
- Heather will put this in the slides
Q: Where to direct people who might get involved?
A: Need the right kind of alignment, ad hoc discussions can determine if community members can be helpful to COmanage development
Steven: Many interested folks aren't ready to contribute to the COmanage development, they would like to take what is available and use it for their purposes
Q: Is there code ready to be used right now?
A: Yes, but the intake / enrollment/ onboarding code will be greatly enhanced / overhauled in the next few weeks.
More SMM Planning
- RL "Bob" stated he is putting together his "Identity: Now a Major Motion Picture Session" talk
- There will be a few lines about COmanage if not a whole slide
- RL "Bob" plans to convey that we are inclined to work more specifically to meet the needs of some identified VOs as opposed to providing a generic "COmanage-in-a-box" type system
- Benn agreed with that characterization, adding that we are looking a general space, looking at well defined problems and coming up with solutions that could be adapted to various situations
Q: Is there going to be a BoF around provisioning? (Niels had suggested that and many people are interested)
A: Nothing yet been formalized. Could be ad hoc, to be decided on Monday, April 18
Collaboration - File Sharing - Heather is working on a document on an educational File Sharing for CIOs
- Influenced by conversation at CSG
- Please review this file sharing document at : https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/COmanage/File+Sharing+for+VO
- Ken noted that file sharing fits in with the cloud service that Internet2 is planning to offer.
- Priorities for the cloud service are computation plus associated storage service
- Many interesting use cases for file sharing are inter-institutional, involving interfederation, entitlements
- Khalil Yazdi, Internet2 contractor, is involved in these discussions, figuring out requirements
- Leif has been doing interesting work in the file sharing area; the Lobber project, using the BitTorrent approach https://wiki.surfnetlabs.nl/display/domestication/Lobber
- Heather stated that the COmanage glossary has been changed and updated recently.
- Keith noted that the MACE-paccman group has on objective to work on a unified MACE-wide aligned glossary.
- This will be a good topic for discussion at the SMM.
- Heather will plan to attend the paccman WG session for discussion
VIVO
- At the recent CNI conference, Heather had discussions with VIVO people.
- The VIVO people brought up use cases of researchers needing access to resources/services based on info in their profile
- Example: a researcher may have access to a wiki depending on which grants they have, and the grants are captured in the VIVO profile.
- This need to get data from the VIVO profile enriches the access control space
- NIH is encouraging of VIVO
NSTIC
- Ken noted that Peter Alterman is moving from NIH to NIST and will be involved with NSTIC.
- NSTIC is in the news today (15-April-2011)
Moonshot
- RL "Bob" raised general questions re applicability of Moonshot
- MyProxy client seems to be incorporating Moonshot ability http://nationalgridservice.blogspot.com/2011/04/shooting-for-moon.html
- Seems daunting to deploy Moonshot in the US.
- What is the status of RADIUS in the US?
- How does Moonshot fit into COmanage?
- Perhaps we should promote a SAML-based alternative.
- Ken: in the SDCI grant proposal we committed to federated and domesticated version of SSH
- Ken has an upcoming phone call this afternoon that may tell more about future status of RADIUS in the US
2011 Spring Member Meeting in Arlington, VA
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COmanage Working Group at SMM: Monday, April 18, 2011, 9:15 AM - 10:15 AM Location: Salon A
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ALSO AT SMM:
International Collaboration Platforms – SURFconext, COIP, COmanage Monday, April 18, 2011, 4:30 PM - 5:30 PM Location: Salon D/E
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Supporting Research Communities: Collaborations in Action Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 1:15 PM - 2:30 PM Location: Salon I/II/III
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Emily Eisbruch, Technology Transfer Analyst
Internet2
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