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Re: [comanage-dev] Draft Minutes: COmanage Call 13-Nov-09


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  • From: Ann West <>
  • To: Emily Eisbruch <>
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  • Subject: Re: [comanage-dev] Draft Minutes: COmanage Call 13-Nov-09
  • Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:09:48 -0500 (EST)

Regarding Adobe Connect, Leif has Shibb'd it and might have some thoughts
along the domestication lines.

Ann


----- "Emily Eisbruch"
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wrote:

> COmanage Call 13-Nov-09
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> *Attending*
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> Heather Flanagan, Stanford (chair)
> Ken Klingenstein, Internet2
> Steven Carmody, Brown U.
> Tom Barton, U. Chicago
> Jim Leous, Penn State
> Chris Hubing, Penn State
> Dan Pritts, Internet2
> Renee Frost, Internet2
> George Brett, Internet2
> Steve Olshansky, Internet2
> Emily Eisbruch, Internet2 (scribe)
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> *New Action Items*
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> [AI] (SteveO) will talk with TomB about how the Grouper Lite UI in
> Grouper 1.5 will fit into COmanage.
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> [AI] (Ken) will check with Michael about contracting with the Penn
> State graduate student to work on COmanage documentation.
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> [AI] (Jim) will work with Renee on logistics for the Penn State
> graduate student documenting COmanage.
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> [AI] Ken will follow up with Shilen about domesticating Adobe Connect.
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> [AI] (Danno) will contact U. Minnesota about domesticating Adobe
> Connect.
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> [AI] (Ken) will email the COmanage-dev group explaining how they can
> join the CollabIdM list.
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> [AI] Ken will contact the Dutch to inquire about the possible European
> effort to set up a conference on collaboration platform projects.
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> *Carry Over Action Items*
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> [AI] (Heather) will resubmit the request for COmanage service for the
> Ivy+ Infrastructure.
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> [AI] (Michael, Heather, SteveO & StevenC) will work on solving issues
> with OpenMeetings.
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> [AI] (Michael) will work on integrating simpleSAMLphp and Foodle.
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> [AI] (SteveO, Ken, and Michael) will follow up on updating the WAYF to
> accommodate international participants.
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> **Discussion**
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> *Ken’s Report*
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> Ken has been using COmanage to set up the Collaboration IdM group, and
> the service has worked quite well. He believes the upcoming
> integration of Foodle (federated Doodle) will make COmanage an even
> more attractive package. Michael is working on bringing simpleSAMLphp
> into COmanage, in order to facilitate Foodle integration.
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> Sites must be running a Shibboleth 2.x IdP (or another IdP supporting
> SAML 2) in order to successfully interface with simpleSAMLphp in
> COmanage. Sites still running Shib 1.3 will have difficulties. Steven
> noted that as of next June 30 2010, the Shibboleth team will no longer
> support Shib 1.3 (EOL). InCommon has started encouraging institutions
> to upgrade to Shib 2.x. However, it may take a lot of effort to get
> every institution to upgrade.
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> Ken has largely figured out how to work with Grouper within COmanage
> and finds it acceptable, SteveO will talk with TomB about how the new
> Lite UI available in December (with the Grouper 1.5 release) will
> improve the group management experience within COmanage.
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> [AI] (SteveO) will talk with TomB about how the Grouper Lite UI in
> Grouper 1.5 will fit into COmanage.
>
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> Ken is satisfied with asking members of a collaborative group to
> register with COmanage in order to create user accounts which can then
> be added to groups, and this removes the earlier concern about needing
> an “invite” feature.
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> Heather noted that she has been testing OpenMeetings web conferencing
> within COmanage and finds it reasonable and acceptable, although there
> are still some minor kinks to be worked out.
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> Ken asked what might be required to domesticate a tool such as
> Asterisk VoIP and integrate it with COmanage.
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> Ken noted that he plans to talk with Internet2 staff about moving
> COmanage to the next level, probably in January. A member meeting
> program committee was suggested as a next test group for COmanage,
> keeping in mind the previously established guidelines of identifying a
> project to use/test COmanage that
> 1 ) is not ongoing, will expire, and
> 2) is fault tolerant
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> Ken suggested that one or two people within Internet2 could become
> COmanage collabmins to assist in the COmanage use and testing.
>
>
> Heather noted the need for COmanage documentation. Jim said he has a
> Penn State graduate student interested in a technical writing
> internship.
>
>
> [AI] (Ken) will check with Michael about contracting with the Penn
> State graduate student to work on COmanage documentation.
>
>
> [AI] (Jim) will work with Renee on logistics for the Penn State
> graduate student documenting COmanage.
>
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> Jim suggested that if things move forward with the graduate student, a
> good approach would be for Chris to set up a COmanage instance and for
> the grad student to “look over his shoulders” and document the
> process.
>
>
> *Adobe Acrobat Connect Domestication*
>
>
> Internet2 uses the hosted Adobe Acrobat Connect service, as this was
> most economical. Steven suggested that Duke may have experience with
> domesticating Adobe Connect.
>
>
> [AI] Ken will follow up with Shilen about domesticating Adobe Connect.
>
>
> Dan noted that U. Minnesota uses Adobe Connect.
>
>
> [AI] (Danno) will contact U. Minnesota about domesticating Adobe
> Connect.
>
>
>
>
> *Updates from Other Organizations and Meetings*
>
>
> Ken spoke to Chad of Project Bamboo at the EDUCAUSE meeting in Denver.
> Project Bamboo’s plan calls for something like a COmanage instance.
>
>
> At the CSG meeting in January, a four-hour workshop is planned on
> Collaborative Platforms, to be coordinated by Michael, Ken and a few
> others, with Michael taking the lead.
> http://www.stonesoup.org/Meetings/1001/agenda1001.html#adda
>
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> The probable format is three or four presentations with discussion. It
> would be good to have a COmanage example at that workshop. The CSG
> workshop coordinators want to identify someone to present on Google
> Wave. Chris is savvy in this field and would be interested in
> participating. Ken will talk with Michael about this.
>
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> *CollabIdM Group*
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> Ken is coordinating the CollabIdM group. One probable topic is
> creating a registry of domesticated (or domesticatable) applications
> and identifying other touch points. Ken asked if there is a touch
> point around metadata aggregation from multiple federations. The WAYF
> on the spaces wiki was discussed, and currently the international
> federations are added manually.
>
>
> [AI] (Ken) will email the COmanage-dev group explaining how they can
> join the CollabIdM list.
>
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> Heather noted that SURFnet had previously mentioned interest in
> convening a discussion about the collaboration environment.
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> [AI] Ken will contact the Dutch to inquire about the possible European
> effort to set up a conference on collaboration platform projects.
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> Next Meeting : Friday, Dec 11 at 2pm ET.
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> Emily Eisbruch, Technology Transfer Analyst
> Internet2
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> office: +1-734-352-4996 | mobile +1-734-730-5749
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> SC09: Visit the Internet2 Booth #1355
> November 14-20, 2009
> Portland, Oregon Convention Center
> http://events.internet2.edu/2009/sc09/

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Ann West, Sr. Program Manager
Internet2/InCommon/Michigan Tech




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