CACTI DIscuss

[David Walker <>]

Thanks, Jill!  We've gotten a spreadsheet from CTAB showing which entities within InCommon / T&I might address various requirements.  It's linked from the page Chris created for these FIM4R activities: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/x/7hLtBw).  Keith Wessel and Heather Flanagan are TAC's point people; they promised yesterday to get us something soon.

Chris has also suggested creating a Google Form to collect information for the spreadsheet.  I'll be looking at that over the next few days.

David

On 08/30/2018 09:31 AM, Jill Gemmill wrote:

Thank you, David.  I’ve added some comments in a separate column and I suggest that as soon as we have input from TAC and the other 2 groups we asked for a response, we move ahead to an aggregation/summary step.  Have we received any feedback yet?

 

• Jill

 

From: on behalf of Chris Phillips
Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 10:39 PM
To: David Walker ,
Subject: Re: Organizing FIM4Rv2 input from working groups, etc.

 

Thanks David!

Apologies for the delay..

Yes, I like the structure and the starting point it has at the requirements level.

 

I have had one or two people ask about and offer personal submissions (or said they would submit one). Now that there’s a bit of structure, do people see the merit to prepare a google form to cast the net wider to solicit input on possible actions? This could be both for the collection effort as well as to ask people at TechEx to respond there in person.

For example, on the requirement  “Increase research representation in FIM governance” we could ask:

 

‘One of the FIM4r recommendations is Increase research representation in FIM governance, how would you recommend/suggest this be addressed?’ and have a text field for people to offer a targeted response.

 

As well, there’s may be an opportunity to create a 2^nd form/survey to capture sentiment on our progress on these points . We could ask people to rank how well we are doing on that aspect.   E.g. How well is I2 Trust and Identity  doing at improving ‘research representation in FIM governance?’ 1=could do more, 2=neutral, 3=no longer problem.  If we are doing better in the scores as time progresses, one could say that we are improving things and that the community is recognizing a change.

 

Thoughts and comments welcome as usual..

 

Chris.

 

 

 

 

 

From: on behalf of David Walker
Date: Friday, August 24, 2018 at 7:24 PM
To:
Subject: Organizing FIM4Rv2 input from working groups, etc.

 

Everyone,

I've created a spreadsheet to organize the FIM4Rv2 input we're starting to get from CACTI and working groups.  Where possible, I've put comments next to the requirement and/or type of organization addressed by the comment, but there's also an "Other Issues" section at the end.

Right now, there's only input from Tuesday's CACTI meeting and a thought I ("Editor") had, but my hope is that this will help us to structure our response to Kevin as we get input from multiple sources.

Take a look and let me know if this looks helpful.  Thanks.

David

On 08/16/2018 11:57 AM, Chris Phillips wrote:

Welcome to the early few on the list and also to those reading the archives!

 

This list is a public Trust and Identity collaboration around topics CACTI is chartered[1] with exploring.

 

While the sentiment may be ‘oh no, not another list!’ it’s clear that it’s tough to find a place to have dialogue on Trust and Identity topics that supersede or cut across charters of existing Internet2 Trust and Identity working groups. Here on CACTI-discuss we hope we can have those type of conversations and collaborate at the same span as CACTI’s charter which is across much of Trust and Identity.

 

There are many other venues that exist today for trust and identity discussions: REFEDS, eduGAIN-Discuss, TF-Mobility, OIDF, IETF etc. This list doesn’t replace or compete with them but allows people on this list to participate and interact with CACTI in a broader more public context.

 

Anyone is invited to be a member of CACTI-discuss to collaborate or just listen on topics. There may be a chance that topics in here will feed other areas or may receive a recommendation that it may be more valuable to pursue the topic in another venue for better results.

The inaugural topic that triggered this list being created is our review the v2 FIM4R paper by CACTI.

CACTI has been asked to assess Internet2’s Trust and Identity portfolio’s progress in light of the v2FIM4R paper.

 

More will follow on this and until then, details on the FIM4R paper are here:

 

Paper: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.1296031

Presentation: https://tnc18.geant.org/core/presentation/132  video(90 min): https://tnc18.geant.org/core/session/51

 

Recent CACTI meeting notes on our work in this can be found here:

https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/CACTI/2017+and+2018+CACTI+Minutes

 

Thank you to the early participants who receive this and look forward to the discussion!

 

Chris

 

[1] CACTI’s charter: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/CACTI/CACTI+Resources

 

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